# Transcript: The universe beneath our feet

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We can also view it as an important natural cycle that connects organisms with nutrients and energy.



Who is Ladislav Miko



Ladislav Miko is a natural scientist and expert in environmental protection. He became one of the highest-ranking Czechs in the European Union administration. From 2011 to 2017, he served as deputy director of the Directorate-General for Health and Consumer Protection. In 2018, he was appointed head of the European Commission Representation in Slovakia.

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**[00:10:00]** then we would gradually convert all available nutrients, including CO2, up to the efficiency level of photosynthesis

**[00:10:06]** into some dead organic matter, and that would be the end.

**[00:10:10]** Then it would collapse and everything would fall apart.

**[00:10:13]** But it doesn't. It hasn't for hundreds of millions of years.

**[00:10:16]** That's because dead organic matter contains a lot of energy in its bonds,

**[00:10:21]** created by plants, and when life on Earth finds an energy source,

**[00:10:28]** it doesn't just leave it unused.

**[00:10:31]** So an entire huge group of organisms has adapted,

**[00:10:34]** drawing their energy and building materials from dead organic matter

**[00:10:41]** in a process called decomposition or decay.

**[00:10:45]** So we'll talk about the actors and players

**[00:10:51]** that ensure nature doesn't accumulate this material but breaks it down.

**[00:10:56]** Basically, we can say there are three big groups of organisms.

**[00:11:03]** As you can see, bacteria, fungi, and what I call critters,

**[00:11:08]** there are tons of them, very diverse, which we'll show shortly.

**[00:11:11]** And what they work on, or what arises in the process,

**[00:11:15]** besides the organic matter breaking down and nutrients being released,

**[00:11:19]** CO2 is released back into the air, and the yellow arrows illustrate

**[00:11:24]** that CO2 escapes because animals, bacteria, and fungi breathe

**[00:11:29]** and consume energy, essentially doing it in a way

**[00:11:32]** that results in CO2 being produced.

**[00:11:35]** But what forms as an interesting byproduct,

**[00:11:39]** though I hesitate to call it a byproduct, is soil structure, soil aggregates, and humus.

**[00:11:45]** So let's look now at the actors.

**[00:11:49]** The most basic, essential, and important is the least visible.

**[00:11:54]** That is often the case.

**[00:11:57]** Here we have the so-called soil microflora,

**[00:12:00]** although neither fungi nor bacteria have anything to do with plants anymore,

**[00:12:03]** so the term microflora is historical and no longer related to flora.

**[00:12:07]** These are fungi and bacteria, the workers of decomposition,

**[00:12:11]** the organisms that break down organic matter in the soil to its basic elements,

**[00:12:17]** and they have the most important function in this.

**[00:12:21]** It wouldn't work without them.

**[00:12:24]** Then we have many animals that a normal person,

**[00:12:29]** even a biologist, would mostly look for in water.

**[00:12:33]** Few realize that the soil world is not a dry world,

**[00:12:37]** at least in terms of organisms.

**[00:12:40]** There is quite a bit of water in soil, partly in the spaces

**[00:12:44]** between soil particles.

**[00:12:46]** But mainly on the surface of soil particles, there is a thin water film,

**[00:12:51]** which is almost always there, even when it's completely dry,

**[00:12:54]** the very thinnest layer remains.

**[00:12:57]** And in this thin layer and then in those little cavities and so on,

**[00:13:00]** a whole range of organisms live, basically aquatic ones.

**[00:13:03]** So we can study aquatic organisms in the soil, surprisingly.

**[00:13:06]** They are mostly microorganisms, as we see here.

**[00:13:09]** Some protozoa, nematodes.

**[00:13:13]** Top left is a rotifer, a very interesting little animal,

**[00:13:16]** which hunts bacteria and also detritus.

**[00:13:19]** And bottom left is a tardigrade.

**[00:13:22]** That's a whole big lecture on what tardigrades can do.

**[00:13:25]** Those of you who know a bit about soil know that the tardigrade is basically a hero,

**[00:13:29]** capable of traveling to Mars without needing a spacesuit,

**[00:13:33]** but we'll talk about that some other time.

**[00:13:37]** Then we have larger animals, which are no longer aquatic.

**[00:13:40]** They crawl through soil spaces; they don't dig their own paths,

**[00:13:45]** so they must only go where they fit.

**[00:13:48]** They usually range from about a tenth of a millimeter to one millimeter.

**[00:13:52]** These are called mesofauna; in soil, they are animals.

**[00:13:56]** Here you see a variety of soil mites.

**[00:14:00]** These are the animals I study.

**[00:14:03]** They are somewhat more represented in my presentation,

**[00:14:08]** because I work with them and because their world is amazing.

**[00:14:13]** But they are not alone in the soil at this size,

**[00:14:17]** there are many other little animals.

**[00:14:20]** Here you see, for example, the lower diagonal are springtails,

**[00:14:24]** top center is a centipede, top left is a dwarf isopod.

**[00:14:28]** About the dwarf isopod, I'll just say that one of the soil organisms

**[00:14:32]** you can learn to recognize yourself.

**[00:14:35]** Simply, you don't need any studies.

**[00:14:38]** The only soil animal about half a millimeter in size

**[00:14:41]** that has branched antennae, while all others,

**[00:14:44]** either you can't see their antennae or they have straight ones.

**[00:14:48]** This one is kind of, I don't know, closest to a moose in shape.

**[00:14:53]** Simply branched antennae—that's the dwarf isopod.

**[00:14:58]** Notice the springtails; bottom left is a springtail

**[00:15:03]** that lives on the soil surface, so it is colored,

**[00:15:07]** has long legs, long antennae, and eyes,

**[00:15:10]** and if we looked closer, it would also be hairy.

**[00:15:13]** Top right is an animal about ten times smaller

**[00:15:16]** than the one on the left. It lives deep in the soil profile.

**[00:15:20]** When you are in the dark, in the soil, 30 centimeters deep

**[00:15:24]** If you never come out in life, it's really pointless to invest in any kind of coloring.

**[00:15:29]** Because it's completely useless. Your eyes are useless.

**[00:15:32]** Long antennae get in the way. So these animals look completely different,

**[00:15:36]** they are adapted to the soil environment.

**[00:15:40]** Of course, predators are also found in the soil at this size.

**[00:15:44]** These are all predatory mites; they attack the others,

**[00:15:48]** they act like health police, they don't catch the healthiest individuals.

**[00:15:53]** They catch those that are half-dead, about to die.

**[00:15:56]** But that makes them even more important. If we had time, we would show

**[00:16:01]** in the top right you can see a bit how the front part, the chelicera,

**[00:16:05]** is a huge weapon. You wouldn't want to meet one if it were 2 meters long.

**[00:16:09]** And notice that they all have relatively

**[00:16:15]** either strong and long legs. This is obviously because

**[00:16:20]** they have to be faster than their prey and move quickly

**[00:16:24]** to find the individuals they can then consume.

**[00:16:27]** So predatory mites. And then there are animals in the soil

**[00:16:32]** that we can already see with the naked eye. This is called macrofauna.

**[00:16:38]** Some of these animals can actively dig tunnels,

**[00:16:43]** and they depend on what lives in the soil. The most well-known animal,

**[00:16:48]** of course, even those of you with gardens and composts, you definitely work with earthworms,

**[00:16:54]** you know how important vermicomposting and composts are.

**[00:16:57]** But there are many others. They can be beetles, millipedes, springtails, woodlice.

**[00:17:04]** Here I refer interested people to study millipedes. Czech millipedes are divided into several groups,

**[00:17:12]** which have charming Czech names that somewhat describe their characteristics.

**[00:17:18]** They are called chlupule, hrbule, plochule, svinule.

**[00:17:22]** So it's quite clear what the individual groups probably look like.

**[00:17:26]** You have svinuli here in the middle of the picture.

**[00:17:29]** So before we continue, I have the first question for all of you.

**[00:17:33]** I hope you're on the slide. I see time is flying quickly.

**[00:17:37]** Try to guess how long the longest earthworm in the world is.

**[00:17:41]** You have several options here.

**[00:17:43]** It was supposed to be 60 cm, but that doesn't matter.

**[00:17:48]** 80 cm, 90 cm, 150 cm, or over 3 meters.

**[00:17:52]** Try to estimate what you think.

**[00:17:58]** I'll give you a hint: the largest earthworms live in tropical soils.

**[00:18:04]** I just returned from the Amazon, and I was amazed there,

**[00:18:08]** because it's an experience to meet a long earthworm.

**[00:18:12]** The local fishermen said that if you catch one, you're set for a week.

**[00:18:18]** So let's see how you guessed.

**[00:18:24]** How long do we leave it? It's still running.

**[00:18:27]** It's still running for a little while.

**[00:18:30]** By the way, even the longest earthworm living in the Czech Republic wouldn't get lost on this scale,

**[00:18:36]** just as a side note.

**[00:18:40]** We have the results. Excellent, 150 centimeters.

**[00:18:46]** The correct answer is the last one, over 3 meters.

**[00:18:53]** I recently held an earthworm in the Amazon rainforest,

**[00:18:57]** which was well over 2, about 2.5 meters.

**[00:19:01]** It's hard to measure because when you grab it, it stretches out.

**[00:19:05]** So it's really a very long animal,

**[00:19:09]** and the largest earthworms can indeed be over 3 meters long.

**[00:19:13]** They're about as thick as my thumb, or even thicker.

**[00:19:16]** It's like a very long sausage.

**[00:19:19]** Interestingly, the indigenous people told me you have to catch it quickly,

**[00:19:22]** otherwise it will quickly burrow into the soil.

**[00:19:25]** Well, it's not that fast, I have to say.

**[00:19:29]** I managed it all. Let's move on.

**[00:19:32]** Besides the animals that are large enough to be seen with the naked eye and mainly eat organic waste,

**[00:19:36]** there are also predators in this size category.

**[00:19:40]** Here you have some examples; they are very diverse,

**[00:19:44]** centipedes, beetles, spiders.

**[00:19:47]** Very important soil predators are ants in social insects,

**[00:19:50]** which can, under certain conditions, basically dominate the ecosystem and become dominant.

**[00:19:53]** So when we put all this together in one picture,

**[00:19:58]** this is maybe a tenth or less of the photos I took

**[00:20:00]** based on several soil samples,

**[00:20:05]** one thing we must notice is that soil is extremely rich in life

**[00:20:11]** and life forms, with a huge number of both species

**[00:20:17]** and individuals of soil organisms, making it a source of incredible biodiversity.

**[00:20:20]** I like to say that when you're taught about the most species-rich ecosystem in school,

**[00:20:26]** they usually mention coral reefs,

**[00:20:32]** as having the most species in the smallest area,

**[00:20:39]** but some of our best soil sites in the Czech Republic

**[00:20:45]** can easily compete with coral reefs

**[00:20:49]** in terms of the number of species living in the same area of soil.

**[00:20:52]** So I think we could rewrite textbooks and say

**[00:20:57]** that the most species-rich ecosystem is healthy soil, but soon we'll show

**[00:21:02]** that the problem is whether the soil is really healthy.

**[00:21:22]** And quickly, in rapid succession, I'll give you a second question,

**[00:21:27]** we talked about it, let me remind you that the main players are fungi, bacteria, and bugs,

**[00:21:33]** everything else is there,

**[00:21:35]** guess how many species of bugs live in our soils.

**[00:21:41]** I told you it's very species-rich,

**[00:21:43]** we're talking about the territory of the Czech Republic,

**[00:21:46]** let's guess how many species live in our soils.

**[00:21:51]** Try to guess.

**[00:21:54]** I've already peeked a bit, maybe I didn't tempt you,

**[00:21:58]** looking at the voting.

**[00:22:06]** The number of participants is growing,

**[00:22:10]** no one believes there are only 500,

**[00:22:14]** or almost no one, sorry, I apologize, only three percent,

**[00:22:18]** guess that low.

**[00:22:24]** Let's wait a little longer.

**[00:22:31]** Great, so we can take this as some kind of result.

**[00:22:37]** The correct answer this time is about 1000 to 1500,

**[00:22:42]** but there is one but.

**[00:22:44]** The but is that we still don't know a huge number of species,

**[00:22:48]** that live even in our soils.

**[00:22:51]** So I'm talking about those that are described and recorded,

**[00:22:54]** that we know of and that occur in the Czech Republic.

**[00:22:58]** Otherwise, for example, just the mites I study,

**[00:23:01]** this small group of armored mites,

**[00:23:04]** there are more than 10,000 described species worldwide,

**[00:23:06]** and every year dozens and hundreds more are added.

**[00:23:10]** Only now is it starting to be properly studied.

**[00:23:13]** And the overall estimate of all bug species on the planet

**[00:23:18]** is well over 100,000.

**[00:23:21]** The important thing I want to say is,

**[00:23:24]** but when we include fungi and bacteria and all their species diversity,

**[00:23:29]** it holds true that if you stand in forest soil,

**[00:23:32]** let's say, I see the Novohradské Mountains here,

**[00:23:35]** in the Žofín Forest or on Boubín

**[00:23:39]** or somewhere in the Beskydy, in a good forest,

**[00:23:42]** with Míša you stand in the forest,

**[00:23:45]** then under your feet,

**[00:23:47]** the universe under our feet, under your feet,

**[00:23:50]** there are more species, organisms, species,

**[00:23:55]** than all vertebrates, meaning fish,

**[00:23:59]** amphibians, reptiles, birds, and mammals living in Europe.

**[00:24:04]** And there are more individuals, pieces, creatures, and microflora,

**[00:24:11]** than there are people living on our planet.

**[00:24:14]** That means we are talking billions and more.

**[00:24:17]** Just beneath your feet.

**[00:24:21]** These are incredible numbers, incredible diversity,

**[00:24:24]** incredible wealth.

**[00:24:26]** There can commonly be about three tons of earthworms per hectare.

**[00:24:30]** To give you an idea.

**[00:24:31]** So it depends on where we are and what the soil looks like,

**[00:24:35]** but when soil is something,

**[00:24:40]** it is definitely not just a substrate, but a living organism.

**[00:24:45]** Please remember this, it’s perhaps the first and most important thing.

**[00:24:48]** It’s incredibly alive, full of life,

**[00:24:51]** unless humans handle it in a certain way.

**[00:24:55]** I actually assume that business representatives are watching us here,

**[00:25:00]** so I took the liberty to create a kind of diagram,

**[00:25:04]** where we could perceive the soil as a small company,

**[00:25:07]** a very clever one, which we’ll call Living Soil and Company.

**[00:25:12]** And here we have the best-known representatives,

**[00:25:16]** who are key in this system.

**[00:25:19]** And when we look at what this company actually does,

**[00:25:22]** its main product is fertile soil,

**[00:25:25]** healthy soil, full of life.

**[00:25:28]** And the inputs are material and energy.

**[00:25:31]** Both material and energy, as I said before,

**[00:25:36]** But the company also buys products from living plants.

**[00:25:41]** That means living plants produce some energy-rich substances,

**[00:25:45]** especially sugars and other amino acids, and so on.

**[00:25:49]** The plants push these into the soil with their roots.

**[00:25:52]** We will show why they do this.

**[00:25:53]** Why someone, when producing something, handles it this way.

**[00:25:57]** And the soil critters reach for it,

**[00:26:00]** because it’s a great energy source.

**[00:26:01]** So they get it for free and also buy from plant roots.

**[00:26:07]** Looking at the structure or organizational structure

**[00:26:11]** of this enterprise, we have engineers.

**[00:26:13]** These are organisms responsible for building networks,

**[00:26:18]** dispatching, and distributing resources.

**[00:26:22]** Then there are animals responsible for logistics,

**[00:26:26]** especially regarding heavy machinery,

**[00:26:29]** meaning digging, moving, shifting things,

**[00:26:32]** things like dump trucks, bulldozers, and excavators.

**[00:26:36]** Then we have light machinery, meaning shredding,

**[00:26:40]** cutting, distribution, packaging, and so on,

**[00:26:44]** mixing with soil, that's another division with light machinery,

**[00:26:50]** that's the soil mesofauna.

**[00:26:51]** And finally, of course, everywhere, in every enterprise,

**[00:26:54]** there must be workers, and they must be the most numerous.

**[00:26:56]** These are the workers responsible for recycling and production,

**[00:27:02]** which are precisely the bacteria and fungi.

**[00:27:04]** Interestingly, in this enterprise,

**[00:27:06]** there must be regulation so that no one goes overboard,

**[00:27:10]** doesn't multiply excessively,

**[00:27:15]** at the expense of others, so there is of course a regulatory component,

**[00:27:19]** which are all the predatory species.

**[00:27:21]** Interestingly, in this enterprise, no wages are paid.

**[00:27:24]** But interestingly, wages come in this enterprise

**[00:27:27]** somehow with the amount of work itself.

**[00:27:29]** The more these organisms work, the more material and energy they gain,

**[00:27:34]** meaning they are like shareholders of the enterprise themselves.

**[00:27:39]** So the more they work, the more they get,

**[00:27:43]** so there's no need to push them much, and they really try.

**[00:27:47]** Occasionally, minor influences enter this enterprise,

**[00:27:50]** and then it can happen that the enterprise collapses.

**[00:27:55]** Now, the main outputs or products and components

**[00:27:59]** that arise in this system are here on this chart,

**[00:28:02]** and they also have some connections.

**[00:28:04]** The first thing is that nutrients are released for plants.

**[00:28:09]** But it's interesting that organic matter, usually when we talk about decomposition,

**[00:28:13]** people think everything must break down completely into nutrients,

**[00:28:17]** into CO2, energy, and nothing remains.

**[00:28:22]** But that's not the case.

**[00:28:23]** A small part of the organic matter remains in the soil.

**[00:28:29]** Imagine it like this: the complex organic molecule,

**[00:28:33]** the workers and others rush into it,

**[00:28:35]** they prepare it in various ways, cut it up,

**[00:28:37]** and they chop it with enzymes into short pieces,

**[00:28:40]** and those short pieces are then caught by other enzymes

**[00:28:43]** and the detritus seems to be cut into smaller and smaller pieces

**[00:28:45]** and in the end, there are the released nutrients.

**[00:28:47]** But as those short pieces in the first step, second,

**[00:28:51]** are free, they have, chemically speaking, sticky ends, I would say.

**[00:28:58]** So part of these partially decomposed molecules

**[00:29:03]** chemically react together and form fairly stable compounds,

**[00:29:07]** which we call humic substances.

**[00:29:09]** And in their usual equipment, those soil workers don't have many enzymes.

**[00:29:14]** They can do it, but it takes a lot of effort, so they prefer not to.

**[00:29:18]** They keep going as long as they have the material, the dead organic matter.

**[00:29:22]** So in the soil, a product accumulates, basically a synthesis

**[00:29:27]** from the decomposed material, which creates the black humus

**[00:29:32]** we know in soil.

**[00:29:33]** Chemically, it's very complex, I won't go into it.

**[00:29:36]** Thanks to this humus and the activity of organisms, which we'll show later,

**[00:29:40]** clusters form in the soil called soil aggregates,

**[00:29:45]** and these soil aggregates are the main components of what we call

**[00:29:49]** soil structure, these are the products of the soil critters and company.

**[00:29:52]** A fundamental thing for our survival, even if it doesn't seem so...

**[00:29:56]** we wouldn't function without it.

**[00:30:00]** So, here is a simplified version, even though it looks complicated,

**[00:30:01]** of how the system works.

**[00:30:05]** And those are the yellow or orange arrows.

**[00:30:07]** Basically, the plant produces organic matter using nutrients,

**[00:30:09]** as we said, sunlight and CO2 from the air.

**[00:30:15]** And when that production goes somewhere,

**[00:30:18]** either it goes to another ecosystem, eaten by a cow, rabbit, or grasshopper,

**[00:30:22]** or it dies and remains as dead organic matter,

**[00:30:27]** whether it's roots or leaves, usually near or on the soil surface.

**[00:30:31]** Then the soil fauna comes in, those are my critters,

**[00:30:36]** and fungi and bacteria, and where you see the strange word exudates,

**[00:30:40]** those are root secretions that plants release into the environment through their roots,

**[00:30:45]** and fungi and bacteria reach for energy there.

**[00:30:50]** It's like an energy drink.

**[00:30:52]** We'll show why this is important, that it also does this.

**[00:30:55]** And in this process, basically the soil fauna prepares it,

**[00:30:59]** the fungi and bacteria both decompose it and at the same time,

**[00:31:03]** that means back into nutrients, but also, as I said,

**[00:31:07]** they produce humus and soil structure.

**[00:31:12]** Humus and soil structure, when you translate it,

**[00:31:15]** are basically carbon and some spatial aspect.

**[00:31:20]** This means the system normally

**[00:31:24]** stores a portion of what it receives into the soil

**[00:31:28]** in the form of some more permanent carbon, that humus.

**[00:31:32]** Let's call it soil coal, imagine it as coal.

**[00:31:36]** It gets stored there and accumulates.

**[00:31:39]** And the structure that forms basically allows water retention

**[00:31:44]** and keeps nutrients there for the plants, which we will show how.

**[00:31:48]** I already drew here, even though we will get to it later,

**[00:31:52]** what happens when we add fertilizer to the field,

**[00:31:56]** mineral, artificial. Here I have NPK, the most commonly used fertilizer.

**[00:32:02]** Notice the blue arrow. The plant gets what it needs.

**[00:32:06]** But everyone else loses out.

**[00:32:10]** Mineral fertilizer has no organic bonds, it's phosphate,

**[00:32:14]** nitrogen, potassium, inorganic, mineral, that's why it's called mineral.

**[00:32:18]** There is no usable energy, so basically,

**[00:32:23]** we just dump it on the plant, it grows, and the whole soil system

**[00:32:27]** is like written off. It gets no energy. This is important.

**[00:32:33]** Now let's talk about a very complex thing,

**[00:32:37]** which I will try to explain simply.

**[00:32:42]** I say, why are there actually hundreds and thousands of species in the soil,

**[00:32:47]** when the functions described here are maybe ten,

**[00:32:51]** or even if there were twenty, that they need to ensure.

**[00:32:55]** Why do we have hundreds, thousands of species in each place?

**[00:32:59]** It's important to know that the more species we have, the greater the chance

**[00:33:05]** that the system will function under different conditions.

**[00:33:08]** We call this functional redundancy, that several organisms

**[00:33:12]** perform exactly the same function. And I call it a happiness insurance.

**[00:33:18]** Because it works like this, on the graph on the left you see rectangles.

**[00:33:22]** These are individual species, for example of mites, but they can be bacteria,

**[00:33:26]** fungi, or anything.

**[00:33:29]** They are species that ensure one single function.

**[00:33:33]** For example, in this case, breaking down organic litter.

**[00:33:37]** And the rectangle on the bottom axis shows the tolerance of that species

**[00:33:42]** to environmental conditions. We can say below that it is temperature

**[00:33:46]** or moisture. Species F has a wide range, it can live in very dry

**[00:33:51]** and relatively moist environments, while species E is strictly

**[00:33:56]** moisture-loving and species B is strictly dry-loving.

**[00:34:00]** And now they all do the same thing. And the range of normal conditions,

**[00:34:04]** which is in your field or garden, is somewhere in that green column.

**[00:34:08]** When you come there and stick our probe in, you'll find the second A, B, C, D,

**[00:34:14]** very rarely E, F, and plenty of G, H won't be there.

**[00:34:19]** And you might wonder, what's the point of this if one would work just fine.

**[00:34:23]** But the trick is that this year, in February and March,

**[00:34:29]** you might have 25 degrees on one day and everything shifts somewhere else.

**[00:34:35]** And many of the species that can function under normal conditions,

**[00:34:39]** are suddenly out. They can't function.

**[00:34:42]** And thankfully, we have species that tolerate these different conditions,

**[00:34:47]** and they ensure it. This effect ensures that our soil

**[00:34:52]** actually works across a wide range, even when we damage it,

**[00:34:56]** when we really do terrible things to it, there's usually still

**[00:35:01]** some species that secures the function we need there.

**[00:35:06]** It has two aspects, one positive and one negative.

**[00:35:11]** The positive is that despite everything we do to the soil,

**[00:35:16]** it still more or less functions.

**[00:35:19]** But at the same time, it somewhat masks its true condition.

**[00:35:23]** If we don't look at how many species are there, we don't know

**[00:35:27]** if it's running on the last species,

**[00:35:31]** which is barely holding on and almost at its limit.

**[00:35:35]** Or if there are still ten species sharing the load.

**[00:35:40]** So, in many places, even if it seems to work on the surface,

**[00:35:44]** we might be just one step away from system collapse.

**[00:35:49]** And without looking at what lives in the soil,

**[00:35:52]** it's very hard to know the real state.

**[00:35:56]** You have it drawn in the diagrams.

**[00:35:58]** On the far right is when we apply fertilizer directly to the plant.

**[00:36:01]** There is no room for anything else.

**[00:36:06]** Either we add it or we don't.

**[00:36:08]** The plant simply has none and dies. That's hydroponics.

**[00:36:12]** On the left is the natural system.

**[00:36:14]** At every level, the red ones are the regulators,

**[00:36:17]** at each level there are several paths for organic matter,

**[00:36:21]** the material, and finally the nutrients to reach the plant.

**[00:36:24]** And if something fails, there's still some path left.

**[00:36:28]** In the middle are simplified conditions, like on our intensive fields,

**[00:36:32]** where there are only a few organisms at each level.

**[00:36:36]** Usually with bacteria it's still relatively good,

**[00:36:39]** because they are very adaptable,

**[00:36:41]** but the risk of collapse is much higher there.

**[00:36:45]** And now it's starting to get complicated.

**[00:36:48]** But the soil system is simply complex.

**[00:36:51]** Here we just want to say,

**[00:36:54]** that when we talk about the flow of organic matter and nutrients,

**[00:36:58]** we're talking about some energy transfer,

**[00:37:01]** which was in the dead organic matter.

**[00:37:04]** Basically, that energy flows in the soil system through three paths,

**[00:37:09]** called three channels.

**[00:37:11]** Bacterial, fungal, and root.

**[00:37:13]** Now the important part is, and here we'll explain,

**[00:37:16]** why the plant sends nutrients into the roots and soil.

**[00:37:20]** Why doesn't it keep them when it produces them?

**[00:37:22]** Imagine you have a company, you produce something,

**[00:37:24]** and then you go out on the street and start giving it away.

**[00:37:27]** That doesn't make much sense.

**[00:37:29]** But in soil, it does make sense.

**[00:37:31]** The trick is,

**[00:37:33]** the plant needs those bacteria and fungi,

**[00:37:37]** to supply nutrients, water, minerals, etc.

**[00:37:41]** And the bacteria do this where they are.

**[00:37:44]** The fungi do this where they are.

**[00:37:46]** They do it for themselves.

**[00:37:48]** They need that energy for themselves.

**[00:37:50]** However, when you have a cheap energy source,

**[00:37:54]** even these creatures think

**[00:37:58]** and won't work hard breaking down,

**[00:38:01]** some tough cellulose,

**[00:38:03]** when they can cover part of their energy needs with sugar.

**[00:38:08]** You'd rather have, I don't know, honey than sawdust for breakfast.

**[00:38:14]** I think everyone understands that.

**[00:38:16]** So the bacteria look for where they have good cheap energy.

**[00:38:20]** And the plant knows that.

**[00:38:22]** So it sends them sugar.

**[00:38:24]** That's the fastest, best, sweetest energy.

**[00:38:27]** And the bacteria say,

**[00:38:29]** I won't struggle somewhere in the soil where I don't have it.

**[00:38:33]** I'll go to the roots where the sugar is.

**[00:38:35]** And their populations grow there, as do the fungi.

**[00:38:39]** There they break down the dead organic matter.

**[00:38:42]** And the plant immediately gets those minerals in return,

**[00:38:46]** the nutrients it needs.

**[00:38:48]** That means they kind of pay each other.

**[00:38:50]** The plant pays with sugar, the bacteria pay with nutrients.

**[00:38:54]** And that's how it beautifully works.

**[00:38:56]** It's an extremely important energy source.

**[00:38:58]** And now the difference between fungi and bacteria.

**[00:39:01]** And bacteria prefer more stable moisture,

**[00:39:04]** so they are usually deeper in the soil under those conditions.

**[00:39:07]** Where the moisture is relatively stable.

**[00:39:09]** It doesn't fluctuate as much.

**[00:39:13]** While fungi have filaments.

**[00:39:16]** The largest fungal organism can cover several hectares underground.

**[00:39:19]** Have you heard about it? Like Armillaria.

**[00:39:21]** Or several tons. Definitely, the blue whale is not the largest organism on our planet.

**[00:39:26]** It’s probably some fungus,

**[00:39:28]** which might weigh several, maybe even tens of tons,

**[00:39:32]** and cover 4 hectares or even more.

**[00:39:35]** And when there’s no water in a given spot,

**[00:39:39]** the fungus has pipelines to pull it from where it is.

**[00:39:43]** This is important for plants because they interact.

**[00:39:47]** So with bacteria, the plant lets them into its root,

**[00:39:51]** where they form so-called root nodules,

**[00:39:54]** and the bacteria capture atmospheric nitrogen when there’s little in the soil.

**[00:39:58]** That’s what legumes can do.

**[00:40:00]** Legumes, also called the pea family, or the older name 'motýlokvět'.

**[00:40:07]** Fungi provide mainly minerals, the most important being phosphates from far away,

**[00:40:14]** and they have a relationship with the root, where they enter or wrap around it, called mycorrhiza.

**[00:40:20]** They connect the soil world over a much wider area, delivering water and nutrients,

**[00:40:26]** and in return, they get energy from the plant.

**[00:40:30]** We could talk in another lecture about how both the fungus and the plant interact

**[00:40:37]** with multiple partners. They don’t have just one fungus.

**[00:40:41]** They have several, and the fungus has several plants.

**[00:40:45]** So what develops in the forest or natural soil is a network of different plants

**[00:40:51]** connected through fungal filaments. These filaments work along concentration gradients of certain substances.

**[00:41:00]** So whenever there are differences, there’s a place where there’s a lot of something and a place where there’s little,

**[00:41:08]** and between them is a tube where something probably happens. I’m simplifying a lot.

**[00:41:13]** Experts would correct me now; it’s not just a tube, it’s a complex process.

**[00:41:18]** But anyway, substances spread along the concentration gradient.

**[00:41:22]** So we have something we can call, as Mr. Wolleben calls it, the forest internet.

**[00:41:29]** And when a tree is attacked by pests, it starts defending itself against them,

**[00:41:34]** it starts producing some substances, but those substances are detected by the mycorrhiza,

**[00:41:38]** because there are more of them in the tree than those that are not infected.

**[00:41:42]** It begins to spread and the surrounding trees get a signal from the sick one,

**[00:41:47]** something is eating me. So they start producing defensive substances,

**[00:41:51]** even before they are infected, because a signal came through the internet,

**[00:41:55]** defend yourself. Interestingly, it's not an internet like,

**[00:42:00]** just a wire, because the fungus still decides about it.

**[00:42:04]** It still decides where to send it and where not to send it and what it takes for itself.

**[00:42:08]** It's much more complex, it's chemical, biochemical,

**[00:42:11]** but it's fascinating and it just shows why it's not good,

**[00:42:15]** for example, when we are in a natural forest,

**[00:42:19]** I don't want to get into the discussion about commercial forests now,

**[00:42:23]** but when we are in a natural forest and a beetle attacks us,

**[00:42:27]** for example, some spruce, and we notice it a little,

**[00:42:31]** we tend to cut down and remove that tree immediately.

**[00:42:36]** Like, yes, the beetle won't multiply on it

**[00:42:40]** and won't fly around, but the tree doesn't have time to send a signal

**[00:42:44]** to the others, so if we have some external source,

**[00:42:47]** the infection that flies in anyway,

**[00:42:50]** we don't warn the other trees to prepare,

**[00:42:54]** and gradually we end up cutting them all down.

**[00:42:57]** Whereas when the natural system works,

**[00:43:00]** it works for a while, because it's a bit like a fire,

**[00:43:04]** but then suddenly the strength of the forest's preparedness

**[00:43:08]** is such that, together with external conditions of course,

**[00:43:12]** the infection can actually be stopped and the forest can mainly recover.

**[00:43:16]** So a very important thing.

**[00:43:18]** Another interesting process that happens during decomposition,

**[00:43:22]** I called it the microbial gambit.

**[00:43:24]** Who here plays chess, that's not a question,

**[00:43:26]** but some of you know what a gambit is.

**[00:43:29]** A gambit is when I sacrifice, for example, the queen, that's the queen's gambit.

**[00:43:32]** I sacrifice the queen, which is the strongest piece,

**[00:43:35]** and basically that would mean I lost.

**[00:43:39]** But there are game variations where by sacrificing the queen,

**[00:43:42]** I can actually win the whole match.

**[00:43:45]** So I sacrifice something very valuable to gain.

**[00:43:49]** And that's exactly what bacteria and fungi do, they sacrifice themselves.

**[00:43:53]** They let themselves be eaten. What kind of logic is that?

**[00:43:56]** You let yourself be eaten to win the battle.

**[00:43:59]** But the trick is that they actually grow

**[00:44:02]** on dead organic matter, the green square is a cutout

**[00:44:05]** of some dead leaf, and into that grow

**[00:44:08]** the fungi and bacteria, and they can only grow

**[00:44:11]** on the surfaces they have available.

**[00:44:14]** Those surfaces have a certain area, they grow over it

**[00:44:17]** and once it's fully covered, they can't reproduce anymore,

**[00:44:20]** there can't be more of them. But then bugs come

**[00:44:23]** and they like to eat those fungi and bacteria.

**[00:44:28]** But, I don't know who among you,

**[00:44:33]** knows what knäckebröd is, right? And if you've ever spread

**[00:44:37]** just jam or just honey on knäckebröd.

**[00:44:41]** Try it sometime, then try to eat just the honey from it.

**[00:44:47]** You can't. It soaks in, it sticks there,

**[00:44:51]** so if you want honey, you have to chew the whole knäckebröd.

**[00:44:54]** And this applies to soil too.

**[00:44:59]** There are fungi and bacteria, then mites and all those bugs come

**[00:45:03]** and want to eat the bacteria and fungi, but they can't separate them,

**[00:45:07]** so they have no choice but to cut up the dead organic matter too.

**[00:45:11]** So they nibble, eating everything,

**[00:45:14]** but by doing that, they actually do what you see on the cube on the right,

**[00:45:17]** the cube originally has a certain surface area,

**[00:45:20]** but by cutting it into small pieces,

**[00:45:24]** the surface area multiplies.

**[00:45:28]** So a few bacteria might be eaten,

**[00:45:31]** but suddenly they have maybe six times more surface area available

**[00:45:35]** and their populations can grow, same with fungi, etc.

**[00:45:39]** It significantly increases substrate availability,

**[00:45:43]** which also increases the rate of decomposition,

**[00:45:46]** which is good for the plants, but at the same time those populations,

**[00:45:50]** fungi and bacteria, win by letting themselves be eaten.

**[00:45:53]** That's why it's called the microbial gambit.

**[00:45:56]** Now we're at the most important part.

**[00:45:59]** What I think is most important in soil is a good, healthy soil structure.

**[00:46:04]** And now, how that structure forms: we have dead litter,

**[00:46:08]** bugs cut it up, fragment it,

**[00:46:12]** bacteria and fungi start decomposing it, humic substances form,

**[00:46:15]** and as they live, they also produce various products.

**[00:46:19]** We can call it slime, we can call it mucilage,

**[00:46:23]** we can call it whatever.

**[00:46:26]** Of course, it has its own technical terms.

**[00:46:29]** Basically, the most well-known word from recent science is glomalin,

**[00:46:34]** which is a product of certain types of fungi.

**[00:46:37]** And they act like a pretty perfect glue.

**[00:46:41]** Imagine you have tiny soil particles of clay and sand,

**[00:46:45]** and suddenly there's something like, I don't know, what would I compare it to,

**[00:46:49]** a dispersive glue that binds everything together nicely.

**[00:46:55]** And if that wasn't enough, besides sticking with bacteria

**[00:47:02]** and fungi, those fungi have a fibrous structure and they grow through it,

**[00:47:06]** so they wrap it into a kind of basket.

**[00:47:10]** What forms is called a soil aggregate.

**[00:47:14]** And that soil aggregate holds together quite well.

**[00:47:16]** If you have healthy soil and put it in a strainer like a tea strainer,

**[00:47:20]** and slowly pour water over it,

**[00:47:26]** almost clear water will flow through.

**[00:47:29]** If you have soil with a broken structure and do the same,

**[00:47:34]** the water that flows through will be cloudy,

**[00:47:37]** and some soil will partially disappear from the strainer.

**[00:47:40]** This is how you can tell if the soil really has a good structure.

**[00:47:44]** Good structure means soil aggregates are formed.

**[00:47:48]** Now let's talk about why soil structure is so incredibly important.

**[00:47:52]** I'm really running out of time.

**[00:47:54]** This is a view through a scanning electron microscope

**[00:47:57]** into such a soil aggregate.

**[00:47:59]** Notice, it's hard to even describe how incredibly complex this space is.

**[00:48:03]** It simply has fibers, lamellae, spaces of various shapes,

**[00:48:09]** larger, smaller, cracks.

**[00:48:13]** If your size is, say, a thousandth

**[00:48:18]** or a hundredth of this area and you have to move through it,

**[00:48:23]** you're in a wildly complex landscape.

**[00:48:26]** Finding a friend can be quite a challenge,

**[00:48:29]** because it's just so complicated.

**[00:48:32]** The basis of soil structure, however, is the mineral substances,

**[00:48:36]** the clay and sand present there.

**[00:48:38]** And the clay minerals are important.

**[00:48:40]** They have layers in their structure.

**[00:48:42]** And they actually have sites where molecules can chemically bind,

**[00:48:46]** ions, nutrients, those mineral substances,

**[00:48:49]** which the plant takes up.

**[00:48:51]** These are the empty spots schematically shown there.

**[00:48:54]** It could be calcium or, I don't know,

**[00:48:58]** nitrate, new ions, and so on.

**[00:49:01]** And when the plant needs it, it either takes it from the soil solution,

**[00:49:05]** dissolved in the soil, but it can also exchange

**[00:49:09]** those mineral substances,

**[00:49:13]** swapping them chemically for a hydrogen proton.

**[00:49:16]** So it gives a proton and takes what it needs.

**[00:49:19]** Another trade.

**[00:49:21]** So it trades with the soil and clay minerals too.

**[00:49:24]** But the number of binding sites is limited.

**[00:49:28]** And as you can see, it only catches one type of molecule,

**[00:49:34]** which are cations.

**[00:49:36]** But when an organic molecule, some humic substance,

**[00:49:41]** comes in,

**[00:49:43]** it's more branched and tangled.

**[00:49:46]** It can bind a much larger amount of mineral ions.

**[00:49:52]** And besides cations, it can also bind anions.

**[00:49:54]** That means when nutrients enter the soil,

**[00:49:58]** even if you pour in NPK fertilizer,

**[00:50:00]** you have two options. Either it stays in the soil solution and some binds to clay minerals,

**[00:50:06]** depending on how many there are and how saturated they are,

**[00:50:09]** or you have a lot of humus, and the nutrients hang on to the hooks in that pantry and stay there.

**[00:50:16]** So when a heavy rain comes, if it's in solution, the rain will wash it away with the solution.

**[00:50:23]** It ends up in a pond, which then blooms because of the nutrients, something we all know from our landscape.

**[00:50:29]** That means the soil structure is probably not right.

**[00:50:32]** Whereas if it's bound there chemically, the water passes through,

**[00:50:38]** but the nutrients stay chemically bound, remain in place, and the plant can take them when needed.

**[00:50:43]** It doesn't have to be exactly when we add them in the water solution.

**[00:50:47]** So this is very important.

**[00:50:50]** And before we look at the next slide, I have one last question for you,

**[00:50:54]** and I'll pick the time later because it's flying by.

**[00:50:58]** Try to guess, when we talk about plant production,

**[00:51:03]** which soil organisms then transform and produce from,

**[00:51:08]** besides nutrients, the soil structure, they need organic matter.

**[00:51:12]** But if we take the total plant production, specifically in the Czech Republic,

**[00:51:16]** how much of that do you think humans appropriate?

**[00:51:19]** And you have options: up to 20%, up to 40%, up to 50%, or over 50%?

**[00:51:27]** I don't know if those of you interested might have read about it somewhere.

**[00:51:32]** One study was done, so we have it documented and calculated.

**[00:51:37]** But it's for aboveground biomass, to be precise.

**[00:51:48]** So, I see how it's developing.

**[00:51:51]** Two extremes are competing for victory,

**[00:51:54]** either up to 20% or over 50%, this will be interesting.

**[00:52:00]** Imagine that from all that is produced here,

**[00:52:03]** what grows in the forest, what grows in the field, what grows on the meadow,

**[00:52:07]** from all of that, how much does...?

**[00:52:10]** The correct term is appropriation of primary production,

**[00:52:14]** a strange, foreign word.

**[00:52:17]** But simply put, what humans take and use for their needs.

**[00:52:24]** Well, I think since time is flying,

**[00:52:28]** I'll cut here and see how it turned out.

**[00:52:32]** So, up to 20% won.

**[00:52:35]** So it's not up to 20%.

**[00:52:38]** Up to 20% is maybe in places where people still live,

**[00:52:45]** in nature, like in the Amazon or Southeast Asia,

**[00:52:50]** where oil palms haven't replaced forests yet,

**[00:52:56]** there it's up to 20%.

**[00:52:59]** In all of Europe and here with us, it's no different,

**[00:53:02]** it ranges around 40, 45 percent and more.

**[00:53:10]** According to the study, here it's over 50%.

**[00:53:13]** In other words, half or more of what

**[00:53:18]** nature produces is taken by humans.

**[00:53:21]** But why do I say this? I say it because

**[00:53:24]** for all other organisms, not just soil ones,

**[00:53:27]** compared to the original state,

**[00:53:31]** we leave only half the energy available,

**[00:53:35]** that the system had before.

**[00:53:37]** Few realize this. It's not just about taking it.

**[00:53:40]** It's about the energy it contains.

**[00:53:42]** And I usually burn that energy. We humans burn it,

**[00:53:45]** we make heat and CO2 from it, both of which we like a lot.

**[00:53:49]** And for those organisms, only half remains.

**[00:53:52]** Here you have, from older Czech studies, a summary.

**[00:53:58]** If we take the forest as 100%, here is how many grams

**[00:54:02]** per square meter are produced aboveground and underground per year.

**[00:54:05]** It's a rough average, it varies a lot.

**[00:54:08]** But let's say aboveground is about a kilo

**[00:54:11]** and underground a bit over half a kilo under normal conditions.

**[00:54:15]** If we turn that into a meadow, we have much less aboveground,

**[00:54:19]** but underground, surprise, almost the same as in the forest.

**[00:54:23]** That means a natural meadow has a rich root system

**[00:54:26]** and actually most of that biomass is underground.

**[00:54:29]** Then we make a field. On that field, we increase the aboveground production,

**[00:54:34]** because we breed the grain and so on,

**[00:54:37]** so it doubles compared to the meadows.

**[00:54:40]** However, underground there is almost nothing. Do you know why?

**[00:54:43]** I could have asked that. I'll just answer you,

**[00:54:46]** because I don't have time. Because we flood the plant with nutrients,

**[00:54:50]** and when it has an excess,

**[00:54:54]** it has no reason to invest in building roots.

**[00:54:59]** Why would it, when a small root is enough

**[00:55:02]** so it doesn't completely fall over? To take what it needs.

**[00:55:06]** Moreover, we leave the soil bare for about three to five months

**[00:55:10]** of the season. Not even twelve. For example,

**[00:55:13]** spring cereals are sown sometimes in March

**[00:55:16]** and harvested in August. So they don't develop

**[00:55:20]** a large root system. So suddenly,

**[00:55:23]** if we take everything including the aboveground production,

**[00:55:26]** we practically remove it all.

**[00:55:29]** We take the grain and then return the rest with manure,

**[00:55:32]** but nowadays we even take the straw,

**[00:55:35]** to produce energy or heat or something,

**[00:55:38]** and on intensive fields, please note,

**[00:55:42]** I did some calculations, only five to ten percent of the original energy and biomass production

**[00:55:46]** that was once there remains on that spot.

**[00:55:50]** Only five to ten percent remains on the site.

**[00:55:54]** Then the workers down there grind it up, right?

**[00:55:57]** They take from what remains.

**[00:56:01]** And I'm not kidding, you can see it in this picture,

**[00:56:05]** these are two maps. On the left is agricultural intensity,

**[00:56:09]** on the right is soil organic carbon content.

**[00:56:12]** What we see is that where agriculture is most intensive,

**[00:56:16]** by the way, a look back five thousand years,

**[00:56:19]** when people started making their fields,

**[00:56:23]** when the Neolithic revolution began and we became farmers,

**[00:56:26]** definitely not on the rocky infertile soils.

**[00:56:30]** It was in alluvial areas, around rivers where the soil was most fertile,

**[00:56:34]** where things grew best. That was on soil with

**[00:56:38]** the highest organic carbon. That's the key, the most humus.

**[00:56:42]** If you look at the map on the right, you can now see,

**[00:56:45]** where we have the most intensive agriculture,

**[00:56:48]** the color yellow is the lightest.

**[00:56:51]** So there isn't the most organic carbon there,

**[00:56:54]** but slowly, except for deserts and some other places,

**[00:56:57]** the least. Over the last five thousand years,

**[00:57:00]** but mainly in the last roughly 80 years,

**[00:57:03]** since we have intensive agriculture and mineral fertilization.

**[00:57:07]** We are turning off the natural cycle of carbon creation and storage

**[00:57:11]** and basically consuming the carbon that is in the soil.

**[00:57:15]** And we have reduced the total carbon content

**[00:57:18]** in the most intensively farmed soils by about

**[00:57:21]** 30, 40, sometimes up to 50%.

**[00:57:25]** That means these soils originally had 4.5, 5, 6%

**[00:57:29]** organic carbon. Today, the quality soils

**[00:57:33]** have about 2.5 to 3%. Occasionally 4%.

**[00:57:37]** I think in Haná you can still find a place where we'd find 4%

**[00:57:40]** or slightly over 4% organic matter in the soil.

**[00:57:44]** So where we farm intensively for ourselves,

**[00:57:48]** we take half and basically draw it out of the soil.

**[00:57:52]** This is how it looks, the upper diagram.

**[00:57:55]** Below is how it developed in the landscape,

**[00:57:58]** and above you see, originally A is energy,

**[00:58:01]** which stayed entirely in the ecosystem, cycling,

**[00:58:04]** humans were part of the natural ecosystem,

**[00:58:07]** and it stayed there again, as all their excrements,

**[00:58:11]** products, and bodies remained, cycling in the system,

**[00:58:15]** so everything was within the ecosystem.

**[00:58:17]** Then came the Neolithic revolution, B, the red part is what

**[00:58:20]** we started to appropriate.

**[00:58:22]** Production decreased because we turned forest into fields,

**[00:58:26]** total production, but it wasn't so dramatic,

**[00:58:30]** but we were already taking a certain and growing part of it.

**[00:58:34]** And today we are at C, today we have raised our

**[00:58:37]** consumption to 50% or 40%

**[00:58:41]** and total production has slightly increased, note,

**[00:58:45]** because we are smart and have new varieties and can grow corn

**[00:58:51]** much more, so total production has slightly grown,

**[00:58:56]** but our share of it is 50% or 40%, that's the red part.

**[00:59:02]** For some time we can still increase

**[00:59:07]** what we take from the system.

**[00:59:10]** But the overall production, given that

**[00:59:13]** the energy flow to those who secure it

**[00:59:16]** will decrease, because we consume it.

**[00:59:19]** And I'll explain right away, I don't have much time, but I have to say it.

**[00:59:22]** Most people say, well, if we return it, it passes

**[00:59:25]** through our stomachs and cottages and I don't know what else,

**[00:59:29]** but it used to be like that. There was bread crumbs, there was manure,

**[00:59:33]** it all went back, but today.

**[00:59:36]** Wastewater can't go back into the system. Why?

**[00:59:40]** It contains estrogens, heavy metals, many other substances,

**[00:59:44]** so it goes to wastewater treatment plants,

**[00:59:47]** where it feeds certain bacteria, they profit from it,

**[00:59:51]** they multiply, and then we have this bacterial mass

**[00:59:55]** which we could put back on the fields with sludge,

**[00:59:58]** but it still contains estrogens, heavy metals,

**[01:00:00]** and so on, so what do we do with it? We use it for energy, so it goes to incineration plants,

**[01:00:07]** it's burned, energy is produced, but I say, we produce CO2 and heat.

**[01:00:13]** These are two things that are starting to cause us some problems.

**[01:00:18]** And it's important to realize that today more than 50% of the human population lives in urban agglomerations.

**[01:00:28]** That means today more than half of people operate within a system

**[01:00:32]** where it simply passes through the human system and into the air as heat and CO2,

**[01:00:39]** more and more, meaning less and less returns to nature.

**[01:00:43]** Where people still live in villages, somewhere, I don't know, in Barmina or somewhere else,

**[01:00:51]** there it still cycles a bit. But here, when you ask farmers,

**[01:00:55]** why don't you add organic matter, they say, I know I need it, but where do I get it?

**[01:00:59]** We don't have animal production, we don't have bread crumbs,

**[01:01:03]** I basically don't have a source for it.

**[01:01:05]** Now work is starting on other solutions, of course.

**[01:01:09]** So what happens to the soil aggregate?

**[01:01:11]** If we don't supply dead organic matter, all the living things there,

**[01:01:15]** and now imagine the field, we keep plowing it,

**[01:01:20]** and before, they plowed to get it into the system,

**[01:01:24]** both to plow the organic matter inside,

**[01:01:27]** and to get oxygen in,

**[01:01:29]** because that speeds up decomposition processes and nutrient release.

**[01:01:33]** But now we don't add organic matter, we just plow.

**[01:01:37]** What happens?

**[01:01:38]** We add oxygen, speed up microbial decomposition,

**[01:01:43]** and the microbes don't get the dead organic matter,

**[01:01:46]** or only 5 to 10%, as we said.

**[01:01:48]** And they don't want to die without those.

**[01:01:51]** So they say, well, what else can we do,

**[01:01:54]** since there's no easy supply of material and energy,

**[01:02:02]** nothing else to do, we'll activate different enzymes,

**[01:02:05]** because it's tougher work,

**[01:02:07]** but we'll take what we've been storing in the pantry here for a thousand years

**[01:02:10]** and attack the humus, the organic matter,

**[01:02:14]** that's stored in the soil, the carbon,

**[01:02:17]** and start breaking down the humic substances.

**[01:02:20]** To be clear, they do break down these even in healthy soil,

**[01:02:25]** but what they store is always more than what they break down from those reserves,

**[01:02:29]** so it keeps accumulating.

**[01:02:31]** Whereas if we don't add organic matter,

**[01:02:34]** this doesn't accumulate, and the little they break down

**[01:02:37]** actually increases a bit,

**[01:02:39]** and suddenly the organic matter starts getting consumed,

**[01:02:42]** which is why half of it is gone in intensive fields,

**[01:02:45]** where instead of organic matter, mainly mineral nutrients were added,

**[01:02:50]** there's no energy, so they attack the organic matter

**[01:02:54]** and the aggregate breaks down.

**[01:02:56]** The aggregate breaks down because what holds it together

**[01:03:00]** is fewer microorganisms, they're not in good shape,

**[01:03:03]** they don't have time to produce much slime,

**[01:03:06]** they just survive and break down organic matter.

**[01:03:09]** They simplify.

**[01:03:11]** This releases the individual mineral particles of the soil,

**[01:03:15]** both sand and clay minerals,

**[01:03:18]** and we actually support this with tillage.

**[01:03:22]** So what happens now?

**[01:03:24]** First, we said soil structure is like hooks that hold nutrients.

**[01:03:27]** And now we've dug them up from the pantry.

**[01:03:31]** There's nowhere to hang the nutrients,

**[01:03:34]** or only a little on the debris here and there.

**[01:03:37]** So we lose those nutrients.

**[01:03:40]** Notice the graph on the right.

**[01:03:42]** It shows how yields increased

**[01:03:44]** when mineral fertilizers started being used,

**[01:03:46]** in this case nitrogen.

**[01:03:48]** And then over the years, from 1960 to 2000,

**[01:03:53]** how it started to collapse with the same doses.

**[01:03:57]** That's clear proof that,

**[01:03:59]** even if we put the same amount of nutrients there,

**[01:04:01]** they don't reach the aggregates,

**[01:04:03]** because the structure isn't there.

**[01:04:05]** They don't bind there and the water washes them away.

**[01:04:07]** Nowadays, fertilizing is done up to four times a year in small doses,

**[01:04:10]** or with drip irrigation, as you've seen,

**[01:04:12]** we're very sophisticated.

**[01:04:14]** Instead of natural soil structure holding it there,

**[01:04:16]** we apply it drop by drop,

**[01:04:18]** just what the aggregate can absorb,

**[01:04:20]** because otherwise it won't stay.

**[01:04:22]** But all this is energy and money,

**[01:04:24]** we realize that.

**[01:04:25]** So the first thing is, we lose nutrients.

**[01:04:29]** The second thing is, when you have well-structured soil,

**[01:04:32]** that's on the left, the yellow is organic matter,

**[01:04:34]** and on the right is degraded soil,

**[01:04:36]** the orange dots, the nutrients, are missing there.

**[01:04:39]** Now I'm curious how this will work.

**[01:04:42]** When the same amount of water falls on it,

**[01:04:44]** this happens.

**[01:04:47]** In the good structure,

**[01:04:49]** a large amount of water is retained,

**[01:04:51]** and the water flows slowly through the system.

**[01:04:53]** In the bad structure, much less water is retained,

**[01:04:56]** and the water rushes away.

**[01:04:58]** Then you get various flash floods,

**[01:05:02]** and that's soil structure.

**[01:05:04]** Primarily, but not only that.

**[01:05:06]** Also vegetation and so on.

**[01:05:08]** So it changes the soil's capacity to hold water,

**[01:05:14]** which is quite fundamental,

**[01:05:16]** and at the same time it affects other ecosystems.

**[01:05:18]** I talked about those humus layers.

**[01:05:20]** I'll be very quick now.

**[01:05:23]** What happens with those released soil particles,

**[01:05:28]** those mineral substances?

**[01:05:30]** They are suddenly unbound in the soil structure

**[01:05:34]** And now, as it rains and water flows,

**[01:05:37]** they migrate through the soil profile.

**[01:05:40]** Usually, a bit downward.

**[01:05:42]** They kind of sift downwards

**[01:05:44]** and usually reach the boundary between topsoil and subsoil,

**[01:05:49]** or possibly soil profiles elsewhere, outside the field,

**[01:05:53]** and start to accumulate on that subsoil layer.

**[01:05:57]** Now clay, clay minerals.

**[01:06:00]** Imagine a thicker and thicker layer of clay minerals forming there

**[01:06:05]** and you create something in the subsoil, I call it a Vicks-Lyvant tablecloth.

**[01:06:10]** Like if you put a plastic sheet there

**[01:06:13]** and then poured soil on top. What happens?

**[01:06:16]** At first glance, if rainfall is well distributed

**[01:06:20]** and you fertilize properly, you won't notice it.

**[01:06:23]** If you probe the soil, the probe will go this deep

**[01:06:26]** and then it won't go further. It's compacted.

**[01:06:29]** But the most important thing is that when rain comes,

**[01:06:32]** and now rains are more extreme, it saturates the top 30 cm

**[01:06:37]** and then hits the Vicks-Lyvant layer. It can't go deeper,

**[01:06:41]** so it actually creates a basin and water fills that basin.

**[01:06:45]** And when the profile becomes more saturated,

**[01:06:49]** each additional water flow starts to carry the soil away.

**[01:06:52]** And you create space for water erosion.

**[01:06:56]** Huge. And the thing is, water erosion existed in the past too.

**[01:07:00]** But back when we studied at university,

**[01:07:04]** we learned erosion is a function of slope and slope length.

**[01:07:07]** Maybe some of you still calculate your practice that way.

**[01:07:11]** But the reality is that today, in many places,

**[01:07:16]** go to Moravia after heavy rain,

**[01:07:19]** and you'll see fields that are basically flat or nearly flat.

**[01:07:22]** Almost no slope, yet at the bottom you have piles of mud

**[01:07:26]** that flowed into the village. Why?

**[01:07:29]** Because we have a slayvant tablecloth there, and when you pour water on it,

**[01:07:32]** the water doesn't form a hill. It has to go somewhere.

**[01:07:35]** And it takes the soil and simply washes it away. Even a minimal slope is enough.

**[01:07:39]** So the thinking that if there's no slope here,

**[01:07:42]** we don't need anti-erosion measures, forget it.

**[01:07:45]** This is very important. Soil structure can cause

**[01:07:48]** problems even on almost flat land. And when it's completely flat,

**[01:07:51]** like up there, there are places called microdepressions.

**[01:07:55]** It's very slightly depressed, about 5 cm

**[01:07:59]** compared to the rest of the surface. But what happens there?

**[01:08:03]** What happens is that water concentrates in that spot,

**[01:08:07]** which is slightly depressed, and basically there are no

**[01:08:13]** soil pores for it to flow down into the profile depth,

**[01:08:18]** because it is saturated, but it can rise between the

**[01:08:22]** clay minerals by so-called capillarity.

**[01:08:25]** Capillarity is interesting, you know it from blood tests.

**[01:08:28]** You have a drop of blood and it climbs up against gravity.

**[01:08:32]** So capillarity in soil causes mineral substances to dissolve

**[01:08:37]** mostly from the underlying rock,

**[01:08:41]** and through capillarity they reach the surface.

**[01:08:44]** This usually happens in lowland soils, for example in South Moravia here.

**[01:08:48]** And it’s generally warmer there, so water evaporates from the surface

**[01:08:54]** and the salts dissolved in it precipitate on the soil surface.

**[01:08:59]** This leads to so-called soil salinization, and when soil is saline,

**[01:09:03]** nothing will ever grow on it again.

**[01:09:05]** So this is an effect even on flat land that should not be forgotten.

**[01:09:10]** And of course, when you destroy half of the base,

**[01:09:13]** as indicated here, the food pyramid,

**[01:09:15]** meaning the diversity of all species that can live in that area,

**[01:09:19]** does not remain half, because it’s a pyramid.

**[01:09:22]** That means if the base is halved, then

**[01:09:25]** the total volume is a quarter or even less.

**[01:09:29]** By the way, this somewhat explains,

**[01:09:33]** when you think about it, why in intensive agricultural landscapes

**[01:09:36]** not only rare and specialized species disappear,

**[01:09:39]** but even the common species that tolerate the system vanish,

**[01:09:42]** because the energy base

**[01:09:47]** is fundamentally important.

**[01:09:49]** When grain used to fall from wagons and such,

**[01:09:52]** some energy remained there.

**[01:09:54]** But today, when we remove it very efficiently,

**[01:09:57]** there is no base left for the others.

**[01:10:00]** And there is less and less of it.

**[01:10:02]** Now just a summary.

**[01:10:04]** This is healthy soil.

**[01:10:06]** In healthy soil, bugs and bacteria

**[01:10:08]** decompose and create humus,

**[01:10:10]** loosen soil structure and release mineral nutrients,

**[01:10:12]** retain water.

**[01:10:14]** And because part of that

**[01:10:16]** organic matter stays in the soil,

**[01:10:18]** the aeration of this

**[01:10:20]** system releases less CO2,

**[01:10:22]** than what gets into the soil.

**[01:10:24]** The result is that the soil

**[01:10:26]** accumulates carbon.

**[01:10:28]** This is exactly what we desperately need

**[01:10:30]** because of climate change.

**[01:10:32]** And now comes the

**[01:10:34]** farmer

**[01:10:36]** and starts applying mineral fertilizers

**[01:10:38]** without adding enough organic matter.

**[01:10:40]** What happens? The plants grow,

**[01:10:42]** that's fine,

**[01:10:44]** but the microbes decline,

**[01:10:46]** our company,

**[01:10:48]** and they look for some source to feed on,

**[01:10:50]** they turn to carbon,

**[01:10:52]** meaning the humus,

**[01:10:54]** and start breaking it down.

**[01:10:56]** What enters the system?

**[01:10:58]** Organic matter thins out,

**[01:11:00]** because we don't supply enough.

**[01:11:02]** What breaks down increases

**[01:11:04]** from the long-term reserves there.

**[01:11:06]** We burn that carbon

**[01:11:08]** and more CO2 starts to be released

**[01:11:10]** from the soil than is stored.

**[01:11:12]** And instead of being a reservoir, the soil becomes

**[01:11:14]** a source of CO2.

**[01:11:16]** This is happening now in the Czech Republic

**[01:11:18]** on most agricultural and unfortunately

**[01:11:20]** also forest soils.

**[01:11:22]** In the last three years, after we cleared

**[01:11:24]** the bark beetle-affected forests,

**[01:11:26]** sunlight got in,

**[01:11:28]** processes accelerated,

**[01:11:30]** and instead,

**[01:11:32]** so we could count down

**[01:11:34]** for those allowances

**[01:11:36]** for the forests

**[01:11:38]** the payments that the Czech Republic

**[01:11:40]** has to make, we are paying now.

**[01:11:42]** I think it was about two to four billion,

**[01:11:44]** which we will pay extra,

**[01:11:46]** because the system that could

**[01:11:48]** help us much more doesn't take it away from us,

**[01:11:50]** if we did it smartly.

**[01:11:52]** This is just a summary,

**[01:11:54]** which says that when we are

**[01:11:56]** in the accumulation mode, that's above the yellow disk.

**[01:11:58]** There it's 50-50,

**[01:12:00]** what is decomposed and what

**[01:12:02]** enters the soil. When we are above it,

**[01:12:04]** we are sustainable, we are fine,

**[01:12:06]** we accumulate, it helps us

**[01:12:08]** with climate, nutrients, water,

**[01:12:10]** everything. And when we are below it,

**[01:12:12]** the deficit that is missing there must be

**[01:12:14]** replenished. We have to add water through irrigation,

**[01:12:16]** nutrients, meaning we fertilize.

**[01:12:18]** We have to protect the soil against

**[01:12:20]** erosion, otherwise... etc.

**[01:12:22]** Or we have to supply it with our other

**[01:12:24]** different energy that humans must provide.

**[01:12:26]** And that costs money

**[01:12:28]** and energy, which is not simple.

**[01:12:30]** The problem is that we don't know

**[01:12:32]** in most ecosystems where

**[01:12:34]** the yellow disk lies.

**[01:12:36]** We know what is definitely wrong

**[01:12:38]** and we know what is obviously right,

**[01:12:40]** but where it is balanced,

**[01:12:42]** meaning what we can afford

**[01:12:44]** to take out of the system,

**[01:12:46]** we haven't studied that well enough yet,

**[01:12:48]** that's why I am talking about it.

**[01:12:52]** And the last

**[01:12:54]** question is, okay, so

**[01:12:56]** we've understood that, for example,

**[01:12:58]** returning organic matter to the system,

**[01:13:00]** well, it won't work there,

**[01:13:02]** if those little critters aren't there.

**[01:13:04]** And if they weren't there, they mostly died off.

**[01:13:06]** So how do we get them back?

**[01:13:08]** I did

**[01:13:10]** some experiments and found out

**[01:13:12]** how they get there on their own, like by walking.

**[01:13:14]** And imagine mites, they're half a

**[01:13:16]** millimeter, and now imagine them working hard,

**[01:13:18]** their whole life,

**[01:13:20]** three or four months long, and

**[01:13:22]** they never do it, but if they did,

**[01:13:24]** walking their whole life in one direction, that would be

**[01:13:26]** a good question, you could guess,

**[01:13:28]** but we don't have time for that.

**[01:13:30]** So when they

**[01:13:32]** run from a predator, that's the fastest escape

**[01:13:34]** they can manage,

**[01:13:36]** the biggest species, about a millimeter,

**[01:13:38]** can manage during that escape

**[01:13:40]** up to three meters per hour.

**[01:13:42]** If you look at experiments that

**[01:13:46]** check in the real world

**[01:13:48]** how far they get from their home,

**[01:13:50]** like from a grove where they live,

**[01:13:52]** into that hostile environment,

**[01:13:54]** first of all, they don't even

**[01:13:56]** go there while it's hostile.

**[01:13:58]** Why would they? Here they have food

**[01:14:00]** and everything, water, and there it's dry

**[01:14:02]** and no food, so they don't go there.

**[01:14:04]** If we improve it by adding organic matter

**[01:14:06]** and so on, then they slowly start to move in,

**[01:14:08]** when it becomes worthwhile for them,

**[01:14:10]** but basically

**[01:14:14]** never during that season

**[01:14:16]** by their own strength and some

**[01:14:18]** kind of shifting with that

**[01:14:20]** organic detritus and so on

**[01:14:22]** they don't go more than several dozen meters.

**[01:14:24]** My observations

**[01:14:26]** in our conditions show

**[01:14:28]** about 20 to 25 meters,

**[01:14:30]** maybe 30, so one rule

**[01:14:32]** for those who will work in the landscape

**[01:14:34]** and want to revive

**[01:14:36]** intensive agricultural landscape,

**[01:14:38]** let's ensure that no place

**[01:14:40]** in any field is

**[01:14:42]** further from the edge that functions

**[01:14:44]** and lives than 30 meters.

**[01:14:46]** So the maximum width of that plot

**[01:14:48]** is 60 meters, better 50,

**[01:14:50]** and so on. A very simple rule,

**[01:14:52]** this can work.

**[01:14:54]** We are helped by

**[01:14:56]** the pests,

**[01:14:58]** we want to destroy, because they

**[01:15:00]** themselves don't reach those 30 meters,

**[01:15:02]** but mice carry them in their fur.

**[01:15:04]** Field voles

**[01:15:06]** and other rodents

**[01:15:08]** have bedding in their nests,

**[01:15:10]** which is exactly organic detritus,

**[01:15:12]** there are mites, they crawl into their fur

**[01:15:14]** and as they move,

**[01:15:16]** 50 meters is a normal

**[01:15:18]** radius from the nest, so they

**[01:15:20]** spread it under the field

**[01:15:22]** in their fur, so a certain number.

**[01:15:24]** Birds can do it in their feathers too, but

**[01:15:26]** there are very few of them, and the wind can do it too,

**[01:15:28]** and this is the absolute minimum.

**[01:15:30]** I found a mite that lives exclusively

**[01:15:32]** in alpine conditions above the tree line

**[01:15:34]** in the East Slovak Lowland

**[01:15:36]** near Trebišov and Žil.

**[01:15:38]** That means it had to get there

**[01:15:40]** with the wind and the nearest

**[01:15:42]** alpine treeless areas are about

**[01:15:44]** 100 kilometers away, either Kráľova hoľa

**[01:15:46]** or the Ukrainian Carpathians,

**[01:15:48]** one of those depending on the wind.

**[01:15:50]** That means they can spread this way too,

**[01:15:52]** but it takes decades,

**[01:15:54]** hundreds of years before something settles,

**[01:15:56]** so we have to secure

**[01:15:58]** the first two options.

**[01:16:00]** And that means if the large field

**[01:16:02]** is 2x2 kilometers,

**[01:16:04]** then during the season, when we again

**[01:16:06]** destroy it at the end,

**[01:16:08]** they can manage 50 meters

**[01:16:10]** around the edges, but never really get

**[01:16:12]** into the middle.

**[01:16:14]** That means if we divide the landscape so that

**[01:16:16]** the width is no more than

**[01:16:18]** 50-60 meters,

**[01:16:20]** we have a much better chance to revive it,

**[01:16:22]** not saying ideally,

**[01:16:24]** that the soil will work better.

**[01:16:26]** And that means it won't just help

**[01:16:28]** the soil fauna,

**[01:16:30]** of course it helps pollinators,

**[01:16:32]** other biodiversity like birds, butterflies,

**[01:16:34]** etc. above ground.

**[01:16:36]** But I just say it also helps the soil organisms

**[01:16:38]** and that significantly, considering the distances.

**[01:16:40]** And here are some options

**[01:16:42]** of what we can do, but I'll leave that for discussion.

**[01:16:44]** And the last picture is about

**[01:16:46]** how long it will take,

**[01:16:48]** if we do it right,

**[01:16:50]** we messed up,

**[01:16:52]** we get into some

**[01:16:54]** acceptable forms.

**[01:16:56]** And the longest experiments are done

**[01:16:58]** at Rothamsted,

**[01:17:00]** that's in Britain, where for about 170 years

**[01:17:02]** they have been testing various fertilizations

**[01:17:04]** and different soil care systems.

**[01:17:06]** And basically, they found that

**[01:17:08]** depending on how long we've been damaging it,

**[01:17:10]** we need the same amount of time,

**[01:17:12]** if we use the most effective method,

**[01:17:14]** which is intensive addition

**[01:17:16]** of organic matter, and it doesn't have to be just manure,

**[01:17:18]** it can be cover crops,

**[01:17:20]** or other options,

**[01:17:22]** compost, and so on,

**[01:17:24]** it comes out roughly the same.

**[01:17:26]** Which unfortunately for today's farmer

**[01:17:28]** is not a big motivation.

**[01:17:30]** If I tell him, now you'll do everything right,

**[01:17:32]** it will cost you something,

**[01:17:34]** more effort, more work,

**[01:17:36]** and in 70 years it will be fine,

**[01:17:38]** he's not very eager to do it.

**[01:17:40]** But the good news is,

**[01:17:42]** notice this curve

**[01:17:44]** the label Manure addition.

**[01:17:46]** The curve isn't dipping like this,

**[01:17:48]** but is asymptotic instead.

**[01:17:50]** That means, in the first years,

**[01:17:52]** it improves

**[01:17:54]** dramatically and fastest.

**[01:17:56]** That's our hope. That's what it comes down to.

**[01:17:58]** That means,

**[01:18:00]** in the first five to ten years,

**[01:18:02]** we can significantly improve

**[01:18:04]** the situation in the field, and then it will take

**[01:18:06]** a long time to reach the original values.

**[01:18:08]** But we can get to

**[01:18:10]** 70-80%, and that completely

**[01:18:12]** fundamentally changes the capability

**[01:18:14]** for that system to work, so it makes sense.

**[01:18:16]** We need to switch

**[01:18:18]** to regenerative agriculture,

**[01:18:20]** hold on for five years, or subsidize it

**[01:18:22]** or support it, and then

**[01:18:24]** the systems can start to work

**[01:18:26]** acceptably, for example by

**[01:18:28]** storing carbon instead of

**[01:18:30]** releasing it. And I think

**[01:18:32]** I'll end here with the call

**[01:18:34]** feed the soil with organic matter and care for

**[01:18:36]** the landscape, then everything will work

**[01:18:38]** and thank you for your attention.

**[01:18:40]** Thank you very much

**[01:18:42]** for the lecture.

**[01:18:44]** Whenever I listen to you,

**[01:18:46]** I think that if

**[01:18:48]** teachers spoke like this

**[01:18:50]** in elementary schools, then simply

**[01:18:52]** I think we wouldn't have any problem at all,

**[01:18:54]** because I think everyone would understand.

**[01:18:56]** Still, I would like to return

**[01:18:58]** to that slide which

**[01:19:00]** we can create.

**[01:19:02]** We can create

**[01:19:04]** services that

**[01:19:06]** we can create.

**[01:19:08]** Still, I would like to return to that slide,

**[01:19:10]** where you have what I can do

**[01:19:12]** as a state, farmer, and individual,

**[01:19:14]** and let's calmly

**[01:19:16]** go through it, because I feel that some questions

**[01:19:18]** are heading in this direction.

**[01:19:20]** Basically,

**[01:19:22]** the important thing is to stop

**[01:19:24]** ignoring the soil as such.

**[01:19:26]** In agricultural systems,

**[01:19:28]** we have focused heavily

**[01:19:30]** and it makes sense, I don't criticize it,

**[01:19:32]** because feeding humanity,

**[01:19:34]** which is still growing, is crucial.

**[01:19:38]** How to maximize production.

**[01:19:40]** And it seemed that it all

**[01:19:42]** worked incredibly well, like when

**[01:19:44]** industrial fertilizers started working,

**[01:19:46]** suddenly it was dramatic,

**[01:19:48]** the production curve was flat for decades,

**[01:19:50]** like this, and somehow around

**[01:19:52]** 1945,

**[01:19:54]** 58, 50,

**[01:19:56]** it completely shifted and started to grow like this.

**[01:19:58]** We said, we've solved it, but after a few decades we began to realize

**[01:20:00]** that we have to fertilize more and more, we have more problems, more erosion,

**[01:20:05]** and we found out that the product of the field is not just the biomass and our food,

**[01:20:10]** but also the soil structure and the soil itself.

**[01:20:17]** And that is what we have been doing until recently. So, in one sentence, I would say,

**[01:20:22]** let's take this as a goal, to cultivate healthy soil, besides the plants,

**[01:20:26]** and then some other things will follow. We need legislation for this,

**[01:20:31]** today some things can't be done because they are illegal,

**[01:20:35]** today some things are not profitable because when you subsidize agricultural production,

**[01:20:40]** meaning the crops, there is no incentive to try to cultivate the soil,

**[01:20:48]** because the more I milk it, the lower my costs, and I get subsidies and yields,

**[01:20:54]** so of course there are farmers who think this way,

**[01:20:59]** that in ten years there will be nothing left. In the Vyškov region, there are fields,

**[01:21:04]** I filmed them, where on once fertile soils today

**[01:21:08]** it is not even worth sowing, farmers leave them bare, they just let it graze.

**[01:21:13]** This is not some made-up threat, this is a very real thing.

**[01:21:19]** That's one thing. As a farmer, I have to make sure to minimize inputs

**[01:21:24]** that worsen soil structure and help those that improve it.

**[01:21:29]** What I would say is ideal, ideal, not everyone can or is able to do it.

**[01:21:33]** No-till, ensuring the soil is always covered with some plants,

**[01:21:37]** meaning after crops, between crops, and if those cover crops are also crops,

**[01:21:42]** as diverse as possible, because we haven't yet talked about root exudates,

**[01:21:47]** which feed the bacteria, even if we don't add manure,

**[01:21:51]** they are layered, first they have different quality

**[01:21:55]** and they are layered over time depending on the plant species.

**[01:21:59]** So when I have a five-species or seven-species or ten-species mix

**[01:22:03]** between crops, it's like flowering for bees.

**[01:22:07]** It covers a much longer season than if I have just one species.

**[01:22:14]** So actually, I have a shorter interval.

**[01:22:16]** And of course, we can all contribute, first of all,

**[01:22:20]** by thinking about how organic matter can even return.

**[01:22:24]** There are two things here. One is, please note, in Europe,

**[01:22:28]** 35 to 40% of the food produced is not consumed.

**[01:22:32]** We pour all that money into it, produce food,

**[01:22:36]** and then it just gets thrown away.

**[01:22:40]** Sometimes it can't even be used as fertilizer,

**[01:22:43]** because it's in packaging, and the packaging is just too difficult

**[01:22:46]** to tear open, like Mars bars or something.

**[01:22:49]** I probably shouldn't name brands.

**[01:22:51]** Someone would have to sit and tear open each one,

**[01:22:55]** to take it out so it could be ground up

**[01:22:58]** and spread on the fields.

**[01:23:00]** Otherwise, you mash it in a machine and spread it on the fields

**[01:23:05]** So we have a big problem with how to at least return what isn't consumed

**[01:23:08]** back into the system.

**[01:23:10]** It means we should think about how much we buy versus how much we need.

**[01:23:12]** That's important.

**[01:23:15]** And then, of course, when I know this,

**[01:23:16]** I can adjust my behavior accordingly,

**[01:23:19]** to avoid creating the problem and instead reduce it.

**[01:23:21]** Marek is asking.

**[01:23:24]** So let's answer.

**[01:23:26]** What would happen if I bought a field with the intention

**[01:23:28]** of turning it into a hlouka forest?

**[01:23:30]** Would natural regeneration occur,

**[01:23:32]** and can we estimate how long it would take?

**[01:23:35]** Is it ten years?

**[01:23:37]** Yes. If you just create a hlouka there

**[01:23:39]** and don't help it,

**[01:23:42]** it won't be there in ten years.

**[01:23:44]** Today, we have very good experience.

**[01:23:46]** I refer to colleagues

**[01:23:48]** for example in the protected landscape area Bílé Karpaty,

**[01:23:50]** where bělokarpatské hlouky are being restored.

**[01:23:53]** And they tried just leaving it alone.

**[01:23:55]** They abandoned the field and left it be.

**[01:24:00]** Or it’s helped by sowing

**[01:24:02]** local grass and flower mixes, etc.

**[01:24:05]** And it makes a huge difference.

**[01:24:07]** If only couch grasses fly in there

**[01:24:09]** and some weeds or fast aggressive species,

**[01:24:14]** it takes a very long time

**[01:24:16]** to get to that meadow-like state.

**[01:24:18]** If I help a bit,

**[01:24:19]** the root system and everything

**[01:24:21]** starts to look different in a shorter time.

**[01:24:23]** But we’re still talking about decades.

**[01:24:26]** The forest helps faster,

**[01:24:28]** but making a forest isn’t that simple,

**[01:24:31]** because forest species have to get there somehow.

**[01:24:34]** And you need some connection somewhere

**[01:24:36]** to a grove or something with trees.

**[01:24:39]** You can’t just plant a forest

**[01:24:42]** in the middle of a field under Pálava,

**[01:24:44]** and hope it will be a quality forest in ten years.

**[01:24:49]** Lukáš, probably Horčička,

**[01:24:51]** greetings to Service Ball,

**[01:24:52]** asks what I think about the Czech national sport of mushroom picking.

**[01:24:56]** Isn’t it nowadays to the extent

**[01:24:58]** that it damages the ecosystem?

**[01:25:01]** I don’t think that’s the problem.

**[01:25:05]** It’s more that

**[01:25:08]** too many people drive cars into the forest

**[01:25:11]** and trample and make a mess,

**[01:25:13]** and that probably bothers the environment.

**[01:25:15]** But picking mushrooms,

**[01:25:17]** in the end, is just collecting the fruiting bodies.

**[01:25:19]** The mycelium stays under the mushroom,

**[01:25:21]** and that’s what matters.

**[01:25:23]** So I wouldn’t be afraid of mushroom picking.

**[01:25:25]** On the other hand, I know cases.

**[01:25:28]** Italians are big mushroom pickers,

**[01:25:30]** you know Italian gastronomy.

**[01:25:33]** And Austrian politicians came to me

**[01:25:36]** wanting to ban Italians

**[01:25:38]** from picking mushrooms in their country,

**[01:25:40]** because they completely pick it clean.

**[01:25:42]** But in Europe, you can't impose a ban based on nationality,

**[01:25:44]** so we dealt with

**[01:25:46]** how to make sure something remains there at all

**[01:25:48]** for the locals.

**[01:25:50]** And that's a topic for another lecture.

**[01:25:52]** But sometimes it can be picked clean.

**[01:25:54]** Packaging is becoming popular,

**[01:25:56]** building materials made from mycelium,

**[01:25:58]** from fungal mycelium. Are there any disadvantages

**[01:26:00]** to such products? How do you see the future

**[01:26:02]** of such applications?

**[01:26:04]** I don't know of any disadvantages.

**[01:26:06]** If there's no chemicals involved,

**[01:26:08]** I think it's quite smart,

**[01:26:10]** just making something that the soil can then consume.

**[01:26:12]** But it's important to realize that mushrooms themselves,

**[01:26:14]** in their cell walls,

**[01:26:16]** contain chitin.

**[01:26:18]** It's the same as beetles.

**[01:26:20]** It's not easily decomposable.

**[01:26:22]** It is decomposable.

**[01:26:24]** There are fungi that can break it down,

**[01:26:26]** but only a certain amount.

**[01:26:28]** Not every fungus can do it.

**[01:26:30]** I got to the point here

**[01:26:32]** of wondering

**[01:26:34]** whether

**[01:26:36]** traditional agriculture

**[01:26:38]** can cover

**[01:26:40]** the global demand,

**[01:26:42]** which keeps growing.

**[01:26:44]** That's a big question.

**[01:26:46]** I think

**[01:26:48]** it can,

**[01:26:50]** comma, but.

**[01:26:52]** But it depends on several things.

**[01:26:54]** Look at what our farmers protest against the most today.

**[01:26:56]** The first thing is,

**[01:27:00]** that they are economically in the red.

**[01:27:02]** If we look a little deeper,

**[01:27:04]** we can't sell our production.

**[01:27:06]** If we look even deeper,

**[01:27:08]** why can't we sell the production?

**[01:27:10]** When we were hungry, we would sell it.

**[01:27:12]** But now we have an excess.

**[01:27:14]** We produce huge surpluses

**[01:27:16]** and our chance is

**[01:27:18]** to push it somewhere

**[01:27:20]** where they don't have enough.

**[01:27:22]** Or we send it to Africa or Asia

**[01:27:24]** or somewhere in the developing world.

**[01:27:26]** But because it works like this,

**[01:27:28]** we have some funds

**[01:27:30]** that buy it from the farmers

**[01:27:32]** and then send it as development aid,

**[01:27:34]** basically for free,

**[01:27:36]** so besides the fact that some powerful people

**[01:27:38]** appropriate it and no one gets it,

**[01:27:40]** let's put that aside,

**[01:27:42]** but basically they receive

**[01:27:44]** our overproduction.

**[01:27:46]** It was already paid for from those funds

**[01:27:48]** and some reserve funds,

**[01:27:50]** and they get the products

**[01:27:52]** at a price at which they can't

**[01:27:54]** compete with their own production.

**[01:27:56]** So paradoxically,

**[01:27:58]** we cause with this aid

**[01:28:00]** that it doesn't pay for them

**[01:28:02]** to start growing

**[01:28:04]** their own production more intensively,

**[01:28:06]** because they go bankrupt.

**[01:28:08]** And it's not simple

**[01:28:10]** as a way out,

**[01:28:12]** to say we won't give it to them,

**[01:28:14]** that's not good either, when we have overproduction,

**[01:28:16]** which we actually give them,

**[01:28:18]** so they will never get the fishing rod

**[01:28:20]** and we keep feeding them those fish.

**[01:28:22]** So it really is

**[01:28:24]** a very complex structural problem,

**[01:28:26]** but generally,

**[01:28:28]** if we consider that the world population

**[01:28:30]** throws away about 35%

**[01:28:32]** of produced food,

**[01:28:34]** plus other statistics,

**[01:28:36]** which have been saying for ten years now,

**[01:28:38]** that the percentage of obese people on Earth

**[01:28:40]** is higher than

**[01:28:42]** the percentage of hungry people,

**[01:28:44]** then we probably have more of a problem

**[01:28:46]** with distribution than with food production.

**[01:28:50]** I'm thinking,

**[01:28:52]** we had a discussion with Jozef Dvořáček

**[01:28:54]** from Zonentor, a person

**[01:28:56]** I really like and also greetings to Zonentor,

**[01:28:58]** where many people are watching us,

**[01:29:00]** so we actually

**[01:29:02]** discussed such

**[01:29:04]** innovations

**[01:29:06]** in agriculture, those new greenhouses,

**[01:29:08]** hydroponics and so on,

**[01:29:10]** versus agriculture

**[01:29:12]** like vertical farms and these things.

**[01:29:14]** I'm actually wondering,

**[01:29:16]** whether to open this up now in the last minute,

**[01:29:18]** or if it could serve as a teaser

**[01:29:20]** for a discussion we will have together later. What do you think?

**[01:29:22]** I would definitely like to come and discuss it in one sentence,

**[01:29:24]** and just say, let's try to realize,

**[01:29:26]** humans are incredibly smart

**[01:29:28]** creatures and can invent amazing things.

**[01:29:30]** But those amazing things,

**[01:29:32]** if we focused

**[01:29:34]** on solving causes

**[01:29:36]** and not just effects,

**[01:29:38]** that would be great.

**[01:29:42]** But we usually let the mess happen

**[01:29:44]** and then we solve the mess

**[01:29:46]** with innovation.

**[01:29:48]** Let's try to prevent the mess

**[01:29:50]** with innovation instead of that.

**[01:29:52]** For example, precision agriculture.

**[01:29:54]** We can use precision agriculture

**[01:29:56]** through regenerative agriculture

**[01:29:58]** or by fixing what

**[01:30:00]** intensive farming causes.

**[01:30:02]** And now you can't say that

**[01:30:04]** precision agriculture is bad.

**[01:30:09]** On the contrary, it's amazing.

**[01:30:11]** But the point is whether I use it to

**[01:30:13]** restart the soil,

**[01:30:15]** or I use it so that

**[01:30:17]** I just leave it in a terrible state

**[01:30:19]** and deal with the consequences.

**[01:30:21]** So I would leave this thought in your minds,

**[01:30:23]** to look for solutions to causes,

**[01:30:25]** not consequences.

**[01:30:27]** So thank you very much for the great talk.

**[01:30:29]** Thanks again.

**[01:30:31]** Thank you.

**[01:30:33]** Thank you.

**[01:30:40]** It was an amazing lecture.

**[01:30:43]** We would appreciate any feedback

**[01:30:45]** you give us.

**[01:30:47]** I think there are already

**[01:30:49]** five stars coming in.

**[01:30:51]** Yes, it was valuable,

**[01:30:53]** as usual.

**[01:30:55]** If you could add

**[01:30:57]** just one word that came to mind

**[01:30:59]** in connection with the lecture,

**[01:31:01]** or that somehow became clear to you,

**[01:31:03]** we would be very grateful.

**[01:31:05]** So thanks for the rating.

**[01:31:07]** And so.

**[01:31:09]** We kind of

**[01:31:11]** always

**[01:31:13]** we don't want to end with just that inspiration.

**[01:31:15]** It's good when something

**[01:31:17]** sticks with us and what

**[01:31:19]** and how it could stick with us

**[01:31:21]** better and more effectively, from the perspective of education and learning,

**[01:31:23]** is to talk about it with someone.

**[01:31:25]** So if you are now at your

**[01:31:27]** company, or

**[01:31:29]** just looking at it with someone,

**[01:31:31]** definitely make a little round,

**[01:31:33]** some reflection where you at least say,

**[01:31:35]** what new things you learned, what you didn't know,

**[01:31:37]** what surprised you, or what

**[01:31:39]** you disagree with. This is also good.

**[01:31:41]** We

**[01:31:43]** do this round

**[01:31:45]** regularly. We call it

**[01:31:47]** Brain Awareness Digestive.

**[01:31:49]** And together with Ladislav

**[01:31:51]** I am really looking forward to

**[01:31:53]** April 26th from 8:00 in the morning.

**[01:31:55]** Sorry, it won't be at 8:00,

**[01:31:57]** it will be at 14:00. That changed,

**[01:31:59]** it will be at 2 PM.

**[01:32:01]** And I will definitely invite

**[01:32:03]** Vojta Malina from Cleverfarm

**[01:32:05]** about precision agriculture. I'll try to invite

**[01:32:07]** Josef Dvořáček from the company

**[01:32:09]** Zonentor, so we have diverse discussions.

**[01:32:11]** Ondraž Přiběra and Sonia Onášová will also come.

**[01:32:13]** So I think it will be worth it.

**[01:32:15]** So if you want, follow us, whether

**[01:32:17]** or just follow Red Button Edu.

**[01:32:21]** There are many projects under

**[01:32:23]** the Red Button umbrella.

**[01:32:25]** For example, Book of the Month.

**[01:32:27]** So here are the books

**[01:32:29]** for March and April.

**[01:32:33]** So, as I said,

**[01:32:35]** we do a lot.

**[01:32:37]** For example, in the sustainability community,

**[01:32:39]** where experts from various companies meet

**[01:32:41]** and discuss, work, and share

**[01:32:43]** best practices, which

**[01:32:45]** incidentally will probably be part of the digest as well.

**[01:32:47]** And, there's no choice but

**[01:32:49]** to take it quickly, in May

**[01:32:51]** there will be

**[01:32:53]** a guest at Brain and Breakfast, Květa.

**[01:32:55]** Květa Mostra.

**[01:32:57]** For those who don't know Květa,

**[01:32:59]** I would say she is

**[01:33:01]** probably one of the biggest entrepreneurs,

**[01:33:03]** if not the biggest in the Czech Republic,

**[01:33:05]** she is called the first lady

**[01:33:07]** of the startup scene.

**[01:33:09]** Květa will share her story with us,

**[01:33:11]** and the title of the breakfast is

**[01:33:13]** How to Build a Dream.

**[01:33:15]** So if you're interested

**[01:33:17]** in how to build a company, company culture,

**[01:33:19]** roles, leadership, and all

**[01:33:21]** these kinds of things,

**[01:33:23]** then on May 23rd,

**[01:33:25]** from 8:30, I look forward

**[01:33:27]** to seeing you. Take care,

**[01:33:29]** thanks. One more chance to say a sentence?

**[01:33:31]** Sure. Two, first of all,

**[01:33:33]** it's really sharp, it's worth it.

**[01:33:35]** But what I wanted to say is, if anyone is interested

**[01:33:37]** in more, there are two films on YouTube that I

**[01:33:39]** made with friends about this topic.

**[01:33:41]** One is called

**[01:33:43]** Geoderma Living Beach

**[01:33:53]** the planet Earth and the second one is called

**[01:33:55]** Let me live.

**[01:33:57]** Both are free and available

**[01:33:59]** in English and Czech in various

**[01:34:01]** versions, so they are

**[01:34:03]** 26-minute documentaries, if

**[01:34:05]** you are interested. Great, we will definitely provide

**[01:34:07]** them as materials.

**[01:34:09]** So once again, thanks, take care,

**[01:34:11]** have a nice day, goodbye and bye.

**[01:34:13]** Thank you.

