# Transcript: The last will be first

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My whole life I have helped the first ones – people who excelled in their abilities, built successful companies, and achieved great things. I also encountered the last ones – people who ended up on the streets, but I overlooked them and told myself they were responsible for their own fate. Gradually, I noticed that many of those who were among the first didn’t manage their positions well and ended up badly. And I discovered new heroes who started badly but ended well. I sit with them in the Dobrý pastier community and see people who have managed to overcome addictions, debts, and many bad habits.I would like to talk about a world I discovered ten years ago that changed my direction. It is the world of generational poverty, children living in unimaginable conditions in Roma settlements. People who have lost their roof over their heads or their freedom and have been excluded from normal society. A world of unnecessary and lonely people. I began looking for ways to connect the world of the rich and successful with the world of the poor and excluded. And interesting projects emerged that I would like to show you.



Who is Ján Košturiak



Ján Košturiak studied mechanical technology and industrial engineering. At 36, he became a professor, teaching in Slovakia, Poland, and Germany, where he collaborated with Fraunhofer IPA Stuttgart. In 1990, he founded the Institute of Industrial Engineering and later the Entrepreneurial University and the innovation network Inovato. He worked for major companies such as Mercedes, VW, and Škoda Auto. After meeting Father Vladimír Maslák, he began engaging in projects supporting the poor and excluded, which changed the course of his life.

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**[00:10:00]** Fraunhofer founded IPA Slovakia, Fraunhofer IPA Slovakia,

**[00:10:05]** I think we were their first foreign partners.

**[00:10:10]** Then Austria and other countries followed, Switzerland, Portugal, and so on.

**[00:10:16]** Then the Business University was established,

**[00:10:18]** where my professor Zelený assisted or inspired me.

**[00:10:23]** And actually, I had many students there, if we can call them that,

**[00:10:27]** entrepreneurs operating in the Czech and Slovak Republics.

**[00:10:30]** And these people later approached me to start Inováto,

**[00:10:34]** Inováto today is about 80 companies,

**[00:10:38]** mainly Slovak ones, that joined forces,

**[00:10:42]** to share capacities and knowledge and be stronger in innovation.

**[00:10:47]** And in the last 10 years, I've been very involved in the last painting,

**[00:10:54]** which you see in the pictures, called The Good Shepherd.

**[00:10:59]** This is a project of this company.

**[00:11:03]** These are people we wouldn't call homeless,

**[00:11:07]** but people who ended up on the margins of society,

**[00:11:09]** came from prison and were brought by the police,

**[00:11:12]** or by a service called LDH in Slovakia,

**[00:11:18]** which cares for elderly people.

**[00:11:20]** Simply, these are people society rejects,

**[00:11:23]** often even their own families reject them.

**[00:11:26]** Here I borrowed an image

**[00:11:28]** that somewhat characterizes the society we live in.

**[00:11:32]** It's an image by Gerd Leonard, which I slightly modified.

**[00:11:36]** The word 'disruption' dominates, and there are various words,

**[00:11:40]** talking about some, maybe even dark forces,

**[00:11:44]** that arrive and change the world beyond recognition.

**[00:11:47]** It's like a tsunami wave that might lift someone up

**[00:11:51]** and maybe it will bring someone down.

**[00:11:55]** And there are only technological changes,

**[00:11:57]** that are often talked about, like AI and quantum computers and the like,

**[00:12:03]** but there are also changes that we might still touch on today.

**[00:12:08]** They are related to the fact that people feel lonely,

**[00:12:11]** that mental illnesses are starting to emerge among young people,

**[00:12:16]** that society is becoming extremely polarized and so on.

**[00:12:19]** I borrowed one more picture,

**[00:12:22]** the rest will be mine, and this picture is by Vlado Šucha.

**[00:12:26]** Vlado is a professor and worked in high positions,

**[00:12:31]** in research in Europe, at the Joint Research Center in Brussels.

**[00:12:35]** So Vlado also has access to terrible statistics and analyses.

**[00:12:43]** This is a slightly different view of today's world.

**[00:12:45]** It is not such a joyful view

**[00:12:48]** in terms of technological and economic development.

**[00:12:51]** This picture says that we live in an era of stress,

**[00:12:55]** that we live in an era of fear.

**[00:12:58]** We don't know what is coming, it causes fear in us.

**[00:13:01]** Just like in the past,

**[00:13:03]** when people still lived maybe in caves

**[00:13:06]** and natural phenomena happened that they didn't understand, so they were afraid.

**[00:13:10]** And this still happens today.

**[00:13:12]** People are starting to lose their orientation in this world.

**[00:13:16]** People are being manipulated

**[00:13:18]** and the means of manipulation also have some technological support.

**[00:13:24]** The concept of irrelevance arises, which Harari used in his books.

**[00:13:28]** Irrelevant people are very suffering people,

**[00:13:32]** because being exploited or abused

**[00:13:35]** may be better than being irrelevant.

**[00:13:37]** Irrelevant means that you are indifferent to everyone,

**[00:13:40]** that you are invisible, that no one needs you,

**[00:13:42]** that you are basically useless.

**[00:13:44]** In this world.

**[00:13:46]** And this is connected to the mental problems that follow.

**[00:13:51]** So the question is,

**[00:13:55]** this is a book, I also have a t-shirt with a similar slogan.

**[00:13:59]** We mainly made a film on this topic

**[00:14:01]** and I published this book this year.

**[00:14:04]** What does it mean?

**[00:14:06]** Why did we even use such a title, that the last will be first?

**[00:14:11]** Try to think about it,

**[00:14:13]** what it tells you.

**[00:14:15]** What do you imagine under this sentence?

**[00:14:20]** Well, now I don't want to test you, just imagine what you want.

**[00:14:28]** One idea might be the biblical one,

**[00:14:30]** that this sentence appears

**[00:14:34]** and those who are oriented in this direction,

**[00:14:37]** that the poor and weak open the gate to heaven.

**[00:14:41]** Or that for the rich, the gate to heaven is narrow,

**[00:14:44]** and similar things are mentioned there.

**[00:14:47]** But basically, the Bible or the biblical text

**[00:14:49]** calls us to pay attention to people

**[00:14:52]** who are poor, sick, weak, and so on.

**[00:14:56]** And that we should not be egocentrically focused only on ourselves.

**[00:15:03]** Then we can look at the sentence that slow and steady wins the race.

**[00:15:07]** It means that people who go thoughtfully, slowly, on the right path,

**[00:15:10]** work systematically, will overtake those who tire quickly,

**[00:15:15]** exhaust themselves, burn out.

**[00:15:18]** And living in a balanced way

**[00:15:22]** can mean that those who started behind end up ahead,

**[00:15:25]** overtaking those who ran too fast.

**[00:15:28]** We know this from sports and from business.

**[00:15:32]** Then there is the question, maybe about metrics,

**[00:15:34]** what it means to be first, because the metrics of this world,

**[00:15:38]** in which we live, this fast, business, competitive world,

**[00:15:43]** are usually three.

**[00:15:44]** And these three metrics are called wealth, power, and fame.

**[00:15:49]** And although these metrics may seem wrong to us,

**[00:15:53]** they exist.

**[00:15:54]** And we really compare ourselves by them; there is a magazine that ranks

**[00:15:58]** people by wealth.

**[00:16:00]** No offense, these people usually achieved that wealth through their effort,

**[00:16:04]** work, and sacrifices.

**[00:16:07]** Then we have various networks, rankings, where people are evaluated

**[00:16:11]** by the number of likes or some kind of fame.

**[00:16:15]** And of course, many people try to reach a position

**[00:16:19]** where they have influence, where they can affect society,

**[00:16:21]** whether in politics, business, and so on.

**[00:16:26]** We can also look at the sentence from another perspective,

**[00:16:31]** that through falls we become strong.

**[00:16:35]** Maybe it sounds strange again, but Americans also

**[00:16:40]** like entrepreneurs to fail.

**[00:16:43]** If you fail, you will be successful.

**[00:16:45]** Batel failed, Forst failed.

**[00:16:47]** Again, those mystical theologians say,

**[00:16:50]** that through falling, a person reaches God's embrace.

**[00:16:54]** The idea is probably that when a person falls,

**[00:16:56]** I was just leafing through a book by Tomáš Šepka,

**[00:16:59]** they realize many things and become stronger,

**[00:17:03]** and something arises that Nassim Taleb calls antifragility,

**[00:17:07]** that difficult situations, those falls, often strengthen us.

**[00:17:12]** Of course, there can also be fatal falls that we can't recover from,

**[00:17:16]** but antifragility is, in my opinion, a very important trait.

**[00:17:21]** So here are several possible views on what

**[00:17:25]** I called 'the last will be first.'

**[00:17:29]** I meet people from two ends of society,

**[00:17:35]** the super-rich, super-successful,

**[00:17:38]** I mean successful business people now,

**[00:17:41]** and then those people whom even their own family no longer wants.

**[00:17:44]** Often, uninteresting boys come to us,

**[00:17:47]** who were kicked out by their parents and had the locks changed,

**[00:17:50]** and the parents couldn't imagine continuing life with their unsuccessful daughters or sons.

**[00:17:55]** Most of them are boys at our place.

**[00:17:58]** So this is one problem.

**[00:18:02]** Maybe the question is also whether the fast pace,

**[00:18:05]** which the environment often demands from us,

**[00:18:08]** in the companies we work for, in the society we live in,

**[00:18:12]** is right, whether in this fast pace

**[00:18:17]** we have a problem perceiving the environment at all,

**[00:18:21]** in which we live, enjoying life, slowing down,

**[00:18:24]** or even the direction we are running and the metrics we want to achieve,

**[00:18:28]** are the right ones.

**[00:18:31]** So this is a question to think about,

**[00:18:33]** and I will gradually move to the group of people

**[00:18:36]** who are on the opposite side of our spectrum.

**[00:18:42]** Maybe the first question that could be asked

**[00:18:45]** is how many homeless people there are

**[00:18:51]** in the world, in Slovakia, in the Czech Republic.

**[00:18:55]** These are people I used to think about,

**[00:18:57]** that they are to blame themselves, or that it actually suits them.

**[00:19:03]** And a big possibility, a big contradiction that arises here is,

**[00:19:07]** that there are people on the street who have nowhere to live,

**[00:19:13]** or they live somewhere in some public space.

**[00:19:17]** And on the other hand, we have apartments that are unoccupied.

**[00:19:21]** So here we have the statistics,

**[00:19:24]** or your responses about homelessness in Slovakia,

**[00:19:28]** maybe I should have put Czechia there, but the numbers are not exactly

**[00:19:31]** that diametrically different.

**[00:19:35]** So I see that we have

**[00:19:38]** figures ranging from 71 thousand, 30 thousand, 82 thousand, 90 thousand.

**[00:19:48]** So I'll wait while we pause on that.

**[00:19:53]** Well, the first category won with 71 thousand, you are probably very educated,

**[00:19:59]** because during the census,

**[00:20:00]** this number came up for Slovakia. It is questioned because it depends on the methodology.

**[00:20:07]** Actually, a homeless person doesn't have to be someone without permanent residence,

**[00:20:12]** or without registered housing, but people who live in difficult conditions

**[00:20:17]** on the street and often suffer from addictions and other problems.

**[00:20:23]** Estimates range from 30 to 70 thousand in Slovakia.

**[00:20:29]** Recently, various counts have been conducted. Košice, now in eastern Slovakia,

**[00:20:34]** is trying to deal with homelessness, so they also did counts of people.

**[00:20:38]** In Rimavská Sobota, counts of people were done, so here you see real numbers.

**[00:20:42]** In the Czech Republic, the range is large, one estimate says 30 thousand,

**[00:20:46]** another says 70 thousand, and there are estimates that say

**[00:20:53]** We see that it is a huge number, also worldwide,

**[00:20:58]** and also in the European Union.

**[00:21:02]** Here I also included pictures from the recent period, and on one side we see

**[00:21:07]** nice buildings, and on the other side, buildings of a worse type.

**[00:21:11]** The first nice building is our Fraunhofer Ita building in Stuttgart,

**[00:21:16]** and it is a campus where I spent some time in my life.

**[00:21:20]** The building below is the home of my friend, a very successful person,

**[00:21:24]** a businessman. That is his house where he works and also has various offices.

**[00:21:30]** And he was so diligent and successful that he has about 24 such homes.

**[00:21:35]** This category probably has about 24.

**[00:21:38]** And then on the other side, you can see dwellings

**[00:21:43]** where I now often go regularly.

**[00:21:46]** And it is housing where Roma families live in central Slovakia.

**[00:21:51]** At the top, we see a picture of what it looked like before November 16,

**[00:21:56]** those shacks they lived in. And below, we see on November 16,

**[00:22:02]** when they burned down. So it was still little what they had in those shacks.

**[00:22:06]** So their winter wood supply burned down.

**[00:22:09]** The people living in this environment, in the center,

**[00:22:12]** well, in the city, on the outskirts, number about 350.

**[00:22:17]** A bit above the city, on the hills, about 80 such people live.

**[00:22:21]** Those on the hill are even worse off,

**[00:22:23]** because they don't have access to water or electricity.

**[00:22:26]** In the 1980s, the communists relocated them,

**[00:22:29]** and they have lived there since the 80s.

**[00:22:32]** In an environment none of us can even imagine.

**[00:22:38]** So now the question about the housing stock.

**[00:22:42]** Try to guess again how many such free apartments there are in Slovakia,

**[00:22:47]** in the Czech Republic.

**[00:22:50]** We can also divide it into houses, apartments, and so on.

**[00:23:00]** Well, we see that it ranges in the hundreds of thousands here.

**[00:23:05]** So the questions are set and remembered,

**[00:23:08]** that 400 thousand is currently leading, 200 thousand, 300.

**[00:23:18]** Well.

**[00:23:26]** So 300 thousand is currently winning.

**[00:23:30]** In Slovakia, it's almost half a million.

**[00:23:34]** That's the official number. I was quite surprised by it.

**[00:23:37]** It's a number that came out during the population census.

**[00:23:41]** There is even a second number related to houses.

**[00:23:45]** So again, there is a huge discrepancy in that,

**[00:23:48]** we have a huge capacity where people can live,

**[00:23:51]** and a huge disproportion with the number of people

**[00:23:54]** who don't have a roof over their heads.

**[00:23:57]** Now I would get to the epidemic that is in Europe.

**[00:24:02]** The first table shows something called loneliness.

**[00:24:08]** The poem Loneliness was used in the European Parliament

**[00:24:12]** during Pope Francis's visit, sometime in 2012,

**[00:24:17]** or whenever he was there. And he spoke about it in that parliament,

**[00:24:21]** and the people sitting there started to think,

**[00:24:24]** what he actually meant, what loneliness really is.

**[00:24:28]** Since then, loneliness surveys have been conducted in the European Union.

**[00:24:33]** There is a precise methodology, and reports for individual countries.

**[00:24:38]** There have been three surveys, which you can see in the table.

**[00:24:42]** Loneliness is not solitude. Loneliness is something bad.

**[00:24:47]** It is a feeling of exclusion, of being unnecessary.

**[00:24:50]** And from loneliness, there is only a short step to depression

**[00:24:54]** and various other consequences of these mental problems.

**[00:24:59]** What is striking about that graph, and also the table, if you look closer,

**[00:25:04]** is that loneliness among old people, for example in my age group,

**[00:25:08]** is not as dramatic as loneliness among young people.

**[00:25:12]** And with young people, you would think it's great,

**[00:25:16]** that they are on social networks, or if we translate it better,

**[00:25:20]** social networks, and at the same time they are much more mobile

**[00:25:24]** than their older peers or parents. And yet the feeling is very strong there.

**[00:25:28]** So even after COVID, by the way, you see that the numbers were dramatic,

**[00:25:33]** but after COVID, among young people, it hasn't improved that much

**[00:25:37]** compared to the older generation.

**[00:25:40]** So the next draft, which is perhaps equally dramatic

**[00:25:46]** or worrying, as is happening in the USA,

**[00:25:50]** is the issue of mental illnesses

**[00:25:54]** and problems of a psychological nature,

**[00:25:58]** which young people struggle with, and we see it increasing

**[00:26:07]** So if I had to summarize what is happening,

**[00:26:10]** from my perspective, don't take it as some all-encompassing opinion,

**[00:26:15]** or an analysis of the world, but one fact is,

**[00:26:19]** that by 2030, these are estimates that may have already been mentioned,

**[00:26:24]** 50-70% of jobs will change. That means disruption

**[00:26:28]** will disrupt work and some people will simply lose their jobs.

**[00:26:32]** And it's pointless to argue that robots and artificial intelligence create jobs,

**[00:26:36]** that's true, but on the other hand, they also eliminate some jobs.

**[00:26:41]** And not everyone who loses their job will be able to adapt to a new one.

**[00:26:46]** This relates to the growing irrelevance of humans and also

**[00:26:51]** to feelings of uselessness, depression, loneliness.

**[00:26:58]** It appears that the economy should grow. The question is, though, who will benefit from that growth.

**[00:27:02]** And we already see society polarizing.

**[00:27:07]** And it polarizes not only economically but also in opinions.

**[00:27:11]** Society is so fragmented that people probably insult each other,

**[00:27:15]** calling each other liberals, conservatives, fascists, communists, and so on.

**[00:27:22]** And then we have all kinds of other criteria as well.

**[00:27:29]** What I conclude from this is that the first thing we should try to do

**[00:27:33]** is to start working with the talents of our children, ourselves,

**[00:27:37]** and realize that we will have to employ ourselves.

**[00:27:40]** That means, if we talk about which jobs won't disappear

**[00:27:44]** or will last a long time, it definitely won't disappear that we employ ourselves.

**[00:27:48]** That we learn our talent and turn it into some kind of benefit.

**[00:27:53]** Then there is the second topic, which is that we probably need some kind of solid foundation.

**[00:27:58]** And that fixed point should be our closest ones,

**[00:28:02]** meaning family, community, and we will talk about that community in a moment,

**[00:28:06]** where people who have lost that fixed point find it.

**[00:28:10]** And then there is resilience,

**[00:28:15]** there is antifragility, which is an even higher level.

**[00:28:18]** That means learning to overcome obstacles, knowing how to step out of the comfort zone,

**[00:28:22]** and coming out stronger from problems and falls.

**[00:28:27]** You might not realize it yet, but it influenced me a lot in life,

**[00:28:32]** because as I met with those businessmen

**[00:28:36]** and I have a very good relationship with mine and helped their companies

**[00:28:40]** to build even better, this person is a priest,

**[00:28:44]** a Catholic priest, his name is Vlado Maslák.

**[00:28:46]** And Vladko taught me a somewhat different approach to life.

**[00:28:51]** Before him, it was Tomko Srholec, who is no longer alive,

**[00:28:54]** or Anselm Green, a Benedictine monk.

**[00:28:57]** And this Vladimír was drawn by some spiritual forces

**[00:29:03]** to this wonderful environment.

**[00:29:05]** It is the Pozdevo monastery, an old monastery,

**[00:29:07]** which was originally founded there, it was the fourth.

**[00:29:11]** And in this environment works what we call a good shepherd.

**[00:29:16]** Maybe now I would play a short film, how we could,

**[00:29:20]** about two and a half minutes.

**[00:29:24]** When I started drinking, I didn't care about anything.

**[00:29:27]** If it weren't for this facility, I would have died somewhere outside on the street.

**[00:29:33]** It will be four years since I last drank.

**[00:29:37]** With the development of our civilization,

**[00:29:39]** everything seems to focus only on prosperity.

**[00:29:43]** We produce and yet keep throwing things away.

**[00:29:46]** Food, clothes, industrial products, and even people.

**[00:29:52]** When I was walking through those corridors,

**[00:29:54]** the sad faces of these young boys,

**[00:29:57]** I note, from fourteen years old.

**[00:30:00]** There were about 500 of them at that time,

**[00:30:03]** so I hesitated, wondering what I could do here.

**[00:30:07]** A group of people who cannot adapt quickly to changes,

**[00:30:11]** we push to the margins.

**[00:30:13]** We create a world of unnecessary people and things.

**[00:30:18]** If you want to take a knife from a child,

**[00:30:20]** or something dangerous that the child has in their hand,

**[00:30:22]** you have to give them something else,

**[00:30:24]** better.

**[00:30:27]** Father Maslák strives to

**[00:30:29]** help them support each other

**[00:30:31]** and be self-sufficient.

**[00:30:34]** It's not easy with over 700 people.

**[00:30:42]** The world today supports a circular economy.

**[00:30:46]** A perfect example is the Good Shepherd.

**[00:30:49]** Old buildings are converted into social service homes,

**[00:30:53]** discarded items are repaired,

**[00:30:55]** or dismantled and parts reused for something else.

**[00:31:00]** It's simple and at the same time brilliant.

**[00:31:13]** They raise animals,

**[00:31:15]** which greatly helps their self-sufficiency

**[00:31:17]** and also the healing of soul and body.

**[00:31:24]** The civic association Good Shepherd

**[00:31:27]** cooperates with the Food Bank of Slovakia.

**[00:31:31]** The Food Bank's goal is

**[00:31:33]** to prevent food waste

**[00:31:35]** and avoid throwing away what can still be used.

**[00:31:37]** With food from supermarkets,

**[00:31:39]** which would no longer be sold,

**[00:31:41]** they have food for themselves,

**[00:31:43]** and for the animals.

**[00:31:45]** But most importantly,

**[00:31:49]** they transform themselves into better people.

**[00:31:51]** They renew themselves.

**[00:31:54]** People whom society has discarded

**[00:31:56]** and often even their own families reject,

**[00:31:59]** come together here again.

**[00:32:02]** Homeless people become therapists,

**[00:32:04]** caregivers, cooks.

**[00:32:06]** The men return to their old professions.

**[00:32:09]** In Slovakia, communities have formed

**[00:32:17]** and operate where selflessness is the priority.

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**[00:40:00]** There is prayer and work, there is occupational therapy.

**[00:40:04]** But mainly our inputs, if I may say,

**[00:40:10]** in production terms, are mostly waste from Siri.

**[00:40:14]** That means we can repair old cars, we can repair old machines,

**[00:40:18]** we regularly repair old houses.

**[00:40:21]** So here you see several examples, like men sorting, and then the fruit goes into vegetables

**[00:40:26]** from PSK, or even from other stores.

**[00:40:29]** Here you can see how we try to process it.

**[00:40:32]** Sauerkraut is probably not as popular in the Czech Republic as it is in Slovakia,

**[00:40:36]** but every family has to have it.

**[00:40:39]** So this year we fermented four tons of sauerkraut.

**[00:40:43]** Four tons.

**[00:40:44]** You can't even imagine the amount of those huge barrels

**[00:40:47]** that we have there.

**[00:40:50]** I gave five P's that I consider absolutely essential,

**[00:40:54]** but this doesn't apply only to people in good pastoral care,

**[00:40:57]** I think it applies generally.

**[00:41:00]** The first point is acceptance.

**[00:41:03]** We must accept people as they are.

**[00:41:06]** And I think this is the basis of inclusion and coexistence,

**[00:41:10]** instead of defining ourselves by saying you are different,

**[00:41:14]** now we won't describe the first procedure when someone comes from the street,

**[00:41:18]** you have to have ointment against scabies,

**[00:41:21]** which is something normal people no longer recognize.

**[00:41:24]** You have to put lice treatment on the hair,

**[00:41:27]** you have to physically cleanse the person somehow,

**[00:41:30]** then detoxification happens, there are deliriums,

**[00:41:34]** there are severe conditions, you have to cooperate with psychiatrists

**[00:41:37]** and many other things.

**[00:41:40]** And now Mr. Farard will tell us that you have to see Jesus Christ in that person.

**[00:41:46]** One always thinks, but Jesus like this?

**[00:41:50]** And somehow you should accept that.

**[00:41:53]** Acceptance is fundamental because these people, for example, speak,

**[00:41:56]** that they haven't heard anything positive about themselves for a very long time, and probably for good reason.

**[00:42:01]** And for the first time, someone accepts them and they feel,

**[00:42:04]** that the one who accepted them likes them.

**[00:42:07]** That the one who accepted them sees something good in them.

**[00:42:10]** And it comes. It somehow starts to spread well.

**[00:42:14]** The important thing is calmness, no pressure.

**[00:42:17]** We also have what could be called production, or farms.

**[00:42:21]** But I came from the business world and I had ambitions,

**[00:42:25]** to optimize, to process.

**[00:42:28]** And I gave that up, because this is a social service.

**[00:42:32]** And here the person comes first and the work is slow.

**[00:42:36]** The work cannot be entirely performance-based.

**[00:42:39]** We sort various things there, I don't know, even automotive parts.

**[00:42:42]** We also have various construction jobs, of course,

**[00:42:46]** but calmness is absolutely fundamental.

**[00:42:48]** Calmness does not create pressure or nervousness.

**[00:42:51]** The work is important from that perspective and people choose that work.

**[00:42:54]** That means we try to give that work to people

**[00:42:57]** appropriate to their age, their abilities,

**[00:43:00]** so that they feel comfortable in that work.

**[00:43:03]** And the work is important because through it they feel praise again,

**[00:43:07]** usefulness, that the result of their work is somehow appreciated.

**[00:43:10]** Of course, when the work starts to go well,

**[00:43:13]** we try to ensure that people get paid.

**[00:43:16]** It is necessary then, this is another part of the intake procedure,

**[00:43:19]** to relieve those people of debts.

**[00:43:22]** They come, usually without paid sickness or social insurance.

**[00:43:27]** People come to us from Čírnám, from Prague, they just brought a man,

**[00:43:31]** who has cataracts, no one touches him,

**[00:43:34]** because he has arrears with the insurance company, so we have to find ways again,

**[00:43:37]** to do such an operation so the man can see, and when he sees,

**[00:43:40]** he can start working. And when he starts working,

**[00:43:43]** you can't put child support into bankruptcy, so the child support

**[00:43:46]** has to start being paid and various obligations and maybe from that work

**[00:43:51]** debts can be compensated and all that.

**[00:43:54]** Then encouragement and praise come, which I think is the absolute foundation,

**[00:43:58]** that people normally realize that for the first time in a while,

**[00:44:02]** we have inmates who sat for 26 years,

**[00:44:06]** we have a record holder with 36 years, so we can't describe

**[00:44:10]** the acts for which they ended up there, but also those people,

**[00:44:14]** once they leave that prison and have the right to live somewhere

**[00:44:17]** and live in some community and in that prison

**[00:44:21]** they don't receive any encouragement all the time,

**[00:44:24]** no big praise or anything like that. Then the transformation happens,

**[00:44:28]** where people start changing from the so-called bad ones

**[00:44:31]** to the good ones, and for some it happens faster,

**[00:44:34]** for others slower, and some relapse.

**[00:44:37]** It is said that when they get money for the first time,

**[00:44:40]** they want to go enjoy it, and that enjoyment

**[00:44:43]** of the old way of life

**[00:44:46]** is not always beneficial, and then they return.

**[00:44:50]** So you can see several such projects

**[00:44:54]** that have been done in recent years.

**[00:44:57]** It's great that we are also connected,

**[00:45:00]** you see people from Linet, from Binděk,

**[00:45:03]** who was a truck driver, sent it for free.

**[00:45:06]** So the process is that an old building is bought

**[00:45:09]** or a building that is no longer useful, and we renovate it.

**[00:45:12]** We buy it with our own money, we haven't taken any loans yet,

**[00:45:16]** and we renovate it ourselves.

**[00:45:19]** So from Něvestínec, I don't know the Czech term,

**[00:45:22]** Něvestíněc, but you understand it's a mess,

**[00:45:25]** so from such an unfinished mess

**[00:45:28]** we have the house of Saint Margita,

**[00:45:31]** then we have some pubs that have stopped operating.

**[00:45:34]** It's interesting that it starts in Slovakia,

**[00:45:37]** it's in some decline,

**[00:45:40]** that those pubs stop working,

**[00:45:43]** so from those pubs we have the house of Saint Tereska

**[00:45:46]** and we have the house of Saint Anna and the house of Saint Bakita.

**[00:45:49]** So these are also things

**[00:45:52]** where to some extent we recycle, refurbish

**[00:45:55]** even old buildings.

**[00:45:58]** There is a company called Bavkarusel,

**[00:46:01]** and behind it is an architect who

**[00:46:04]** dismantles old buildings and calculates

**[00:46:07]** how many percent of the old building was reused,

**[00:46:10]** whether 60 or 70.

**[00:46:13]** So we might rank quite well in those lists,

**[00:46:16]** because we really try to restore those buildings and old things

**[00:46:19]** and use it, and maybe they would give us some medal

**[00:46:22]** for the green economy.

**[00:46:25]** This is our church, which is very old historically,

**[00:46:28]** and people find such peace and calm here.

**[00:46:33]** This is a project from this year, where we are starting to build

**[00:46:37]** hospices, our own,

**[00:46:40]** because people, some of them are aging. Our people's time is running out,

**[00:46:43]** so we have one hospice already finished,

**[00:46:47]** the second is now halfway through the rough construction,

**[00:46:50]** and the third we plan to build next year.

**[00:46:53]** I repeat, all of this is done from our own resources,

**[00:46:56]** we haven't needed any loans so far,

**[00:47:01]** and we use our own work

**[00:47:04]** and mostly our own materials.

**[00:47:07]** This is my passion project, because this was this year's build,

**[00:47:11]** where a man gave us an old house,

**[00:47:14]** an old wooden house from Lokolince,

**[00:47:17]** saying we could dismantle and burn it,

**[00:47:19]** or somehow reuse it.

**[00:47:21]** Our guys living in this community,

**[00:47:24]** called Vricko, transported the house,

**[00:47:26]** marked the individual elements,

**[00:47:29]** and they themselves came up with

**[00:47:31]** turning it into a church or chapel.

**[00:47:33]** I watched this over the year,

**[00:47:36]** it took about half a year,

**[00:47:38]** they carved out the altar,

**[00:47:41]** and they came up with the name, it would be the Chapel of Don Bosco.

**[00:47:46]** Last week, the week before, it was consecrated,

**[00:47:50]** and now it is official.

**[00:47:52]** They built a small tower, and in it they got a bell,

**[00:47:55]** next to the chapel they made a workshop.

**[00:47:58]** They buy some tools themselves,

**[00:48:01]** and keep it tidy.

**[00:48:03]** In companies, we introduced various 5S standards,

**[00:48:06]** they don't even know what that is,

**[00:48:08]** but the order is there in the workshops.

**[00:48:10]** So this fascinates me completely,

**[00:48:12]** that many of these projects the boys came up with themselves.

**[00:48:17]** This is the second such building,

**[00:48:19]** That was another house in Sborana,

**[00:48:21]** where they were chopping wood,

**[00:48:23]** so they built three such small houses.

**[00:48:25]** And now we're going there to organize

**[00:48:27]** weekend or summer camps for Roma families' children.

**[00:48:29]** You can also see some of our workshops here,

**[00:48:32]** so in each facility we have such workshops

**[00:48:35]** tailored to the type of people there.

**[00:48:38]** Down there, as you can see the shovels,

**[00:48:40]** that's a workshop

**[00:48:42]** where an 85-year-old man named Lojzo works.

**[00:48:44]** For example, he takes care of the tools.

**[00:48:46]** It's great that each person

**[00:48:48]** has their own zone of responsibility,

**[00:48:50]** everyone maintains their own order and system,

**[00:48:52]** and everyone feels like a little manager there.

**[00:48:55]** All these facilities are basically run

**[00:48:58]** by former clients who have worked their way up

**[00:49:00]** and now have responsibility for an area

**[00:49:03]** with 40-50 people.

**[00:49:05]** My wife works there

**[00:49:08]** in accounting and HR,

**[00:49:10]** so I have some insight

**[00:49:12]** into the numbers. We have about 15 centers

**[00:49:14]** and around 150 people.

**[00:49:17]** These are the animals we mentioned earlier.

**[00:49:19]** There are many animals.

**[00:49:22]** We had big problems with veterinarians,

**[00:49:24]** so we decided to cancel

**[00:49:26]** all subsidies,

**[00:49:28]** so we don't take any subsidies,

**[00:49:30]** but it helps us a lot.

**[00:49:32]** Not only in therapy but also practically,

**[00:49:34]** because we can produce

**[00:49:36]** eggs, goats, cheese,

**[00:49:38]** and we are self-sufficient in this.

**[00:49:40]** Of course, we have all the HACCP

**[00:49:42]** and all the standards

**[00:49:44]** that you might need.

**[00:49:48]** So we have this livestock here.

**[00:49:50]** We also keep horses,

**[00:49:52]** because some parts of the agricultural work

**[00:49:54]** are done in difficult-to-access terrain,

**[00:49:56]** and horses prove to be better for that.

**[00:50:00]** For various types of tasks, so this too.

**[00:50:05]** The whole livestock is kind of, I don't know, what they call it today, organic,

**[00:50:09]** so imagine, our animals are mostly outside.

**[00:50:13]** We won't talk about what we feed them,

**[00:50:15]** because a client came who drank a lot and then the kids wrote,

**[00:50:19]** that their father stopped drinking,

**[00:50:21]** and they asked him what he was doing, and he explained,

**[00:50:24]** that he was feeding cows bananas.

**[00:50:27]** The kids thought their dad was still drinking,

**[00:50:29]** but he wasn't, because at that time,

**[00:50:32]** the animals really were being fed bananas, and I feel sorry,

**[00:50:36]** that goats get mangoes or cows get avocados,

**[00:50:40]** but unfortunately, it's set up that way because there's a lot of waste.

**[00:50:44]** I always think it's better to turn it into meat,

**[00:50:46]** than to destroy it in some incinerator,

**[00:50:49]** some of it even had to be imported to Slovakia.

**[00:50:54]** Then there's another thing, the vets were surprised

**[00:50:56]** that we have very low mortality when the animals are born,

**[00:50:59]** that's because the guys take care of them like children,

**[00:51:03]** they actually live with the animals on the farm

**[00:51:06]** and they nurture them.

**[00:51:08]** And we also use very few antibiotics,

**[00:51:11]** or such things, because the animals are milked and cared for by hand.

**[00:51:14]** So it's kind of,

**[00:51:16]** you could classify it as some kind of organic farming,

**[00:51:19]** but we don't boast about it much,

**[00:51:20]** we're just glad the vets haven't banned it yet.

**[00:51:24]** Then we have these,

**[00:51:26]** also our own farms, let's call them, for vegetables and fruit,

**[00:51:31]** where we have been testing the principle of the rotating arm

**[00:51:35]** for about three years now.

**[00:51:37]** It's solar-powered,

**[00:51:39]** so we could say we're also a research center

**[00:51:42]** for new technologies in agriculture.

**[00:51:45]** This is another interesting project.

**[00:51:48]** We have 30 hectares of land,

**[00:51:50]** where we basically built, you could say, a small village.

**[00:51:53]** We even have our own little church there, and all the buildings are made of straw.

**[00:51:59]** And straw is waste for us, as is sheep's wool.

**[00:52:03]** Now we're dealing with how to use these waste materials,

**[00:52:07]** and we've managed to build a few very high-quality buildings like this.

**[00:52:12]** If I told you the cost, the building was made for just a few thousand euros,

**[00:52:16]** and it's very high quality, so that's great.

**[00:52:19]** This is exactly the project where we want to possibly continue with Roma families,

**[00:52:23]** so they could, and we would allocate some space for them,

**[00:52:27]** to build their own homes.

**[00:52:30]** And on this land, we also build workshops.

**[00:52:32]** Here we have pottery production, ceramics, and various other things.

**[00:52:37]** So we also know how to build larger buildings like these.

**[00:52:40]** This is the hospice we are currently roofing.

**[00:52:49]** We want to work with mobile hospices as well.

**[00:52:52]** So far, it's for ourselves, but I recently attended some meetings,

**[00:52:57]** where Mare Gorková was present, and there were experts from Čír on palliative medicine.

**[00:53:03]** And again, I think this is a huge thing for the future,

**[00:53:08]** to provide palliative care at home.

**[00:53:11]** And we want to offer this to people in the villages and surrounding areas.

**[00:53:16]** Because dying is a very important process,

**[00:53:19]** and we've pushed it away as if death didn't exist.

**[00:53:23]** Yet during dying, a person can still resolve most things,

**[00:53:27]** regarding their life, forgiveness, and reconciliation.

**[00:53:31]** And since our infrastructure is quite large,

**[00:53:35]** all the wheelchairs, beds, anti-decubitus mattresses, therapists,

**[00:53:40]** we can provide all of this to other people, not just ours.

**[00:53:46]** Of course, we try to attract nurses and medical students,

**[00:53:50]** we are starting to cooperate with the medical faculty,

**[00:53:54]** and convince doctors to work with us.

**[00:53:58]** For example, on November 17th, it was the World Day of the Poor in Rome,

**[00:54:03]** and we were invited there to meet the Pope.

**[00:54:06]** It was a great honor for us, and we noticed,

**[00:54:10]** for example, that top doctors from Rome come at the Pope's invitation

**[00:54:15]** to provide free services for the homeless,

**[00:54:18]** who live in the Vatican and nearby.

**[00:54:21]** And the Pope told the carabinieri not to evict them,

**[00:54:24]** but to buy them tents and sleeping bags.

**[00:54:27]** He is trying to help this group of people.

**[00:54:31]** And even doctors who are now going on strike in Slovakia,

**[00:54:35]** are trying and giving their resignations, but not every one of these doctors

**[00:54:39]** is willing, for example, to treat our people.

**[00:54:44]** This is a picture that shows again

**[00:54:48]** how we operate. We don't write letters to anyone,

**[00:54:52]** asking for sponsorships or for 2% donations.

**[00:54:56]** But we have actually created a network, so the entrepreneurs,

**[00:55:00]** you see in the picture, there's Stáňa Martiněz,

**[00:55:02]** the owner of the company Koma, there's Miloš Gregor,

**[00:55:04]** Remi Klima, these are quite significant companies,

**[00:55:07]** that come to us regularly.

**[00:55:09]** Vojto Pastorčák in Podlaji.

**[00:55:11]** So a kind of connection has formed,

**[00:55:15]** where before it was separate, with social enterprises

**[00:55:19]** or such communities living on the margins,

**[00:55:23]** and companies living their own lives.

**[00:55:27]** Sometimes a company would sponsor a foundation

**[00:55:29]** or send money somewhere, but now we have achieved a kind of

**[00:55:33]** significant importance.

**[00:55:38]** When I talked about healing,

**[00:55:40]** we won't tell any stories here.

**[00:55:42]** We have a few films about our clients on YouTube.

**[00:55:44]** I think there is even one about this Miško, Miško Pál,

**[00:55:46]** there is a film about him.

**[00:55:48]** Miško is a very talented boy.

**[00:55:50]** When he was 18, he lived a very wild life,

**[00:55:54]** very wild, ending up imprisoned for drugs,

**[00:55:58]** and alcohol.

**[00:56:00]** No one from that group is alive anymore.

**[00:56:02]** All those boys ended badly.

**[00:56:05]** He survived only because he lost both legs under a train in Žilina.

**[00:56:09]** So he was brought to us in a very serious condition.

**[00:56:13]** In a severe mental and physical state.

**[00:56:15]** Just now, they brought us another one like that.

**[00:56:17]** And I see how hard it is to accept,

**[00:56:19]** that the person has no legs.

**[00:56:21]** How hard it is to accept that they have no one and nothing.

**[00:56:25]** And Miško today is married, has a car, has a house.

**[00:56:32]** He has a wife and they are expecting their second child.

**[00:56:36]** In January, they will have their second child.

**[00:56:38]** And he has a job. He works with us in a sheltered workshop.

**[00:56:42]** So there are quite a few cases like this.

**[00:56:44]** And this is the whole point it brings.

**[00:56:48]** This is a korbačík.

**[00:56:50]** We also organize events.

**[00:56:52]** We braided a korbačík from nine handfuls, nine strands.

**[00:56:57]** 126 meters long; last year we baked a 100-meter strudel.

**[00:57:03]** We perform theater; we tour Slovakia with this theater.

**[00:57:07]** We involved Roma girls from a Roma settlement in the theater,

**[00:57:11]** who dance there.

**[00:57:13]** We were in Rýma, we attend various fairs like this.

**[00:57:17]** We try to live a social life.

**[00:57:19]** We go on trips with those who can walk.

**[00:57:23]** We have about 60-70 wheelchair users, so with them, we have a bit different approach.

**[00:57:27]** Here we sort food from the food bank.

**[00:57:31]** We refurbish, recycle whatever we can.

**[00:57:33]** This is how our guys repair cars.

**[00:57:35]** Someone would buy a new part.

**[00:57:37]** Our guys put it all back together like this.

**[00:57:39]** Here we have a pelletizing line where we make pellets from old straw.

**[00:57:43]** This is how we repair furniture.

**[00:57:45]** You see these chairs that we somehow

**[00:57:51]** managed to repair.

**[00:57:55]** This is a big challenge.

**[00:57:57]** This is a Roma housing estate in Slovakia, about which this afternoon

**[00:58:01]** we will have a videoconference,

**[00:58:03]** with the city council and various organizations,

**[00:58:05]** to discuss how to fix places like this.

**[00:58:07]** So the Good Shepherd tries

**[00:58:09]** to help even in this area,

**[00:58:11]** this is our new activity,

**[00:58:13]** to be useful in some way.

**[00:58:15]** Here I also included a decalogue,

**[00:58:17]** which we probably won't discuss,

**[00:58:20]** but I included it,

**[00:58:22]** which came from the service,

**[00:58:24]** that the Good Shepherd provides,

**[00:58:26]** that we shouldn't help people

**[00:58:28]** based on what they deserve.

**[00:58:30]** Quite the opposite, that we should help, for example

**[00:58:32]** mostly the ones who deserve it the least,

**[00:58:34]** because they are the most wounded,

**[00:58:36]** and the most repulsive,

**[00:58:38]** if I may put it that way,

**[00:58:40]** and they need help the most.

**[00:58:42]** So the one who drinks the most,

**[00:58:44]** needs help just like the one who drinks less.

**[00:58:47]** You know, when we discuss with them

**[00:58:49]** their life and their wounds,

**[00:58:51]** it's sometimes difficult.

**[00:58:55]** So we shouldn't really be selecting people like that.

**[00:58:57]** I just ask everyone,

**[00:58:59]** to get rid of prejudices,

**[00:59:01]** to switch off that part of the brain,

**[00:59:03]** that when someone looks different,

**[00:59:05]** or we have a bad experience

**[00:59:07]** with that community, we don't call people,

**[00:59:09]** like Ukrainians, or we don't call people, like Gypsies.

**[00:59:11]** They have names, they have specific stories.

**[00:59:13]** And they are, on average, people as individuals,

**[00:59:15]** separate human beings.

**[00:59:17]** Another thing is that the people

**[00:59:21]** who help, try, but the person is ungrateful.

**[00:59:23]** That's completely normal.

**[00:59:25]** You don't help to

**[00:59:27]** get a medal,

**[00:59:29]** or for the person to kiss your hands.

**[00:59:31]** They are ungrateful.

**[00:59:33]** That's why you have to help.

**[00:59:35]** Then there are people who give help

**[00:59:37]** and say, but you have to do this.

**[00:59:39]** These are the ones who tell the homeless person,

**[00:59:41]** I won't buy you booze,

**[00:59:44]** I'll buy you a sandwich.

**[00:59:46]** I buy him booze.

**[00:59:48]** Because he likes the booze,

**[00:59:50]** but that booze at some moment

**[00:59:52]** can save his life.

**[00:59:54]** We have had many men in delirium tremens,

**[00:59:58]** That baguette won't help him in that delirium.

**[01:00:00]** He could be drinking gin, vodka, or beer.

**[01:00:03]** Unfortunately.

**[01:00:04]** So sometimes the booze can be more useful for him.

**[01:00:08]** Of course, we try, we don't drink here.

**[01:00:11]** We get rid of it, abstinence, abstainers,

**[01:00:14]** but at some point, the baguette helps less than the alcohol.

**[01:00:19]** We get rid of prejudices,

**[01:00:21]** we get rid of trying to save the world,

**[01:00:23]** we help just one person,

**[01:00:25]** who might be close to us and doesn't even look homeless.

**[01:00:28]** I lost most of the abandoned people among the rich,

**[01:00:32]** who maybe only differ in that

**[01:00:34]** they sniff some higher quality stuff and drink better alcohol.

**[01:00:39]** But they might be even worse off than those on the street,

**[01:00:43]** because they haven't realized they've fallen too,

**[01:00:45]** even though they live in some luxury apartment.

**[01:00:50]** I don't think we have the right to judge those people,

**[01:00:53]** because now I travel with a good pastor

**[01:00:57]** and I act as his driver,

**[01:00:59]** one man who sat in prison for 26 years,

**[01:01:02]** and when he tells me how he earned a red belt.

**[01:01:05]** I thought red...

**[01:01:07]** Last time in a Roma settlement, he did this...

**[01:01:08]** Someone asked for a cigarette, he gave him two right away.

**[01:01:11]** I was surprised he gave two cigarettes,

**[01:01:13]** and he told me that no one ever allowed him to ask for a cigarette,

**[01:01:18]** because he has a red belt.

**[01:01:20]** I thought it was something from karate or something,

**[01:01:28]** and I've been with this man for about half a year, he's a good person.

**[01:01:32]** And after everything he's done and served time for, he wants to be a good person.

**[01:01:36]** At least at the end of his life, he's 59 years old.

**[01:01:39]** But when he tells me stories from when he was four,

**[01:01:42]** what he remembers, it's horrifying,

**[01:01:45]** what he experienced and the wounds he endured.

**[01:01:51]** Of course, we can't help by force.

**[01:01:53]** Many people bring us some drunk who falls asleep,

**[01:01:57]** and when he wakes up, he thinks he'll stay with us.

**[01:02:00]** No, a person has to want to come to us.

**[01:02:03]** And unfortunately, there are people who can't be helped,

**[01:02:06]** because they reject the help.

**[01:02:07]** And they are also in the Roma community, also in the homeless community.

**[01:02:11]** On Christmas Eve, we go out on the street, we try to bring them to us,

**[01:02:15]** but sometimes it works.

**[01:02:18]** And relapses sometimes happen,

**[01:02:20]** and there really are cases where you can't force help.

**[01:02:26]** And then there's another important thing for me,

**[01:02:28]** that just as we want to give help, we should also accept help.

**[01:02:33]** Honza sometimes reminds me,

**[01:02:34]** when those boys from Dobrý pastýř tried to give me gifts,

**[01:02:39]** but I didn't accept the help, for example.

**[01:02:42]** My wife is like a princess among them,

**[01:02:44]** when she comes to the canteen,

**[01:02:45]** she was bringing gifts from the food bank,

**[01:02:48]** and she learned to accept it,

**[01:02:50]** because by accepting help,

**[01:02:54]** we are actually helping other people.

**[01:02:57]** So it's mutual.

**[01:03:00]** So maybe I would end my talk

**[01:03:07]** with a recommendation.

**[01:03:09]** I don't want to give you any lectures here,

**[01:03:11]** nor manipulate you.

**[01:03:15]** I just notice that in society

**[01:03:17]** there is a huge focus now on technology,

**[01:03:19]** on whether we can handle some technology,

**[01:03:22]** while these technologies, in terms of use,

**[01:03:25]** are becoming more and more manageable,

**[01:03:27]** only the impacts might be worse for some.

**[01:03:33]** And under these technologies, we still see

**[01:03:36]** that they will help us be successful,

**[01:03:38]** to have a lot of money, to win in business.

**[01:03:41]** When I listen to some businessmen,

**[01:03:43]** the way they are talked about, they are like military generals.

**[01:03:46]** Just like the fighting in Ukraine,

**[01:03:48]** corporations fight each other,

**[01:03:51]** undercutting each other, conquering markets,

**[01:03:54]** that is just how it is,

**[01:03:56]** when we say the last will be first,

**[01:03:57]** always consider how big companies treat their suppliers.

**[01:04:01]** That's for sure.

**[01:04:03]** Just as we condemn Roma or homeless people,

**[01:04:06]** sometimes we also judge Nefer or weaker people.

**[01:04:09]** And these can be suppliers to our company.

**[01:04:12]** I think,

**[01:04:14]** we should focus on those

**[01:04:16]** who are falling behind the most.

**[01:04:18]** Many of these people can't pull themselves out of it alone.

**[01:04:20]** I see this in Roma settlements.

**[01:04:22]** I was recently here in Prague and saw my little granddaughter,

**[01:04:25]** who is not even three years old yet.

**[01:04:27]** Last week I saw a boy her age,

**[01:04:29]** barefoot in this weather,

**[01:04:32]** chopping wood in a Roma settlement.

**[01:04:34]** I imagined my Eliška,

**[01:04:36]** somewhere in Prague, chopping wood,

**[01:04:38]** barefoot in front of her house.

**[01:04:42]** What I'm talking about is something

**[01:04:46]** that already has a name: generational poverty.

**[01:04:50]** These children can't pull themselves out of it alone.

**[01:04:53]** Pálo Hryca in Slovakia founded a way out

**[01:04:55]** and they know how to solve it, they have a mother and the Zebra project,

**[01:04:59]** they have the Filip project.

**[01:05:01]** Basically, it starts early,

**[01:05:04]** if a child from 0 to 3 doesn't get support,

**[01:05:07]** which the parents can't give because they never received it either,

**[01:05:10]** then the child enters first grade at the level of a four-year-old.

**[01:05:14]** In Slovakia, they don't go to first grade but to a special,

**[01:05:17]** separate school and are basically written off.

**[01:05:21]** Yet these are completely normal children,

**[01:05:23]** just unlucky that in the first three years after birth,

**[01:05:26]** they didn't get what other children receive.

**[01:05:30]** So,

**[01:05:32]** this might be a kind of appeal to be more attentive,

**[01:05:35]** and again, I don't mean the homeless.

**[01:05:38]** I see most suffering people among well-dressed and wealthy people.

**[01:05:42]** I see most suffering people in companies.

**[01:05:44]** There are many psychopaths in companies, especially in higher positions,

**[01:05:47]** and they cause huge amounts of destruction.

**[01:05:52]** You probably almost need to run away from a psychopath.

**[01:05:56]** Then I have one last sentence I knew,

**[01:05:59]** And then I have one last sentence for you,

**[01:06:03]** and it's a bit selfish, that people who help others,

**[01:06:07]** are said to live longer and happier lives.

**[01:06:10]** That helping itself is therapy.

**[01:06:13]** So maybe this could motivate us somehow.

**[01:06:19]** So thank you, I think I'm on time,

**[01:06:22]** so thank you for listening to me.

**[01:06:29]** Thank you.

**[01:06:35]** This will be a bit more complicated for me today.

**[01:06:38]** I need to do one more thing.

**[01:06:43]** But I'm coming to you now.

**[01:06:47]** We have plenty of questions.

**[01:06:53]** Whenever I see that clash I recorded,

**[01:06:56]** I remember what I experienced there.

**[01:07:00]** Because I often went there.

**[01:07:07]** We went there as part of our RB Leader program,

**[01:07:09]** where we showed leaders what is important.

**[01:07:13]** There were many aha moments.

**[01:07:15]** And for me personally, the biggest aha moment

**[01:07:19]** was actually during the very first visit.

**[01:07:22]** And that was back then...

**[01:07:24]** I have to admit, and this is something I often say,

**[01:07:28]** that when I saw a homeless person on the street,

**[01:07:32]** it was disgusting to me.

**[01:07:34]** It was always just terrible.

**[01:07:35]** I would walk around them, and if the person came to me,

**[01:07:40]** I didn’t want to interact at all,

**[01:07:42]** and I just avoided it somehow.

**[01:07:45]** And there, thanks to Vlado and Jano,

**[01:07:50]** I came into contact with their stories,

**[01:07:54]** how they actually ended up on the street.

**[01:07:57]** And that was such a powerful moment for me,

**[01:08:00]** I still get goosebumps thinking about it,

**[01:08:03]** when I realized it could happen to any of us.

**[01:08:08]** To any of us.

**[01:08:11]** And it's really hard to realize now,

**[01:08:13]** when we are in this comfort, surrounded by this,

**[01:08:16]** none of us can imagine

**[01:08:18]** that it could happen to him or her.

**[01:08:21]** But it can.

**[01:08:22]** The worst part is that it really can happen.

**[01:08:26]** There are judges, artists, entrepreneurs,

**[01:08:30]** just people who have achieved a lot in life,

**[01:08:32]** just like us here, sitting here.

**[01:08:35]** And I also somehow became more aware

**[01:08:42]** and grew my respect for alcohol.

**[01:08:47]** I even discussed it with Michal Jovský,

**[01:08:51]** it was a breakfast about addiction and such.

**[01:08:55]** What is the thin line, that it really is a big demon.

**[01:09:00]** That dancing around it and telling yourself,

**[01:09:04]** I have it all under control, often isn’t true.

**[01:09:08]** And mainly, each of us has that limit somewhere else.

**[01:09:11]** In the society we live in,

**[01:09:15]** it’s really like some need less

**[01:09:19]** and fall into it without even realizing how,

**[01:09:22]** because they are genetically predisposed in some way

**[01:09:24]** or have something unresolved.

**[01:09:26]** So the stories of those people showed me

**[01:09:31]** that it can affect any of us.

**[01:09:39]** Now, with some distance, I want to ask you,

**[01:09:45]** what does it actually mean to you now?

**[01:09:49]** Because you’re spending more and more time there,

**[01:09:51]** entrepreneurs are coming to you now.

**[01:09:54]** Why did you actually exchange the house you had there?

**[01:10:00]** from that entrepreneur and more here.

**[01:10:04]** I was leaving our company, which I founded with Fraunhofer.

**[01:10:08]** My wife left with me to the monastery.

**[01:10:13]** I was leaving those executive functions again,

**[01:10:17]** and for me, that is the best life, because I found something there,

**[01:10:22]** which I only regret not finding much earlier.

**[01:10:25]** I don’t know, for example, when I became a professor,

**[01:10:29]** at a relatively young age, I was invited to various scientific councils.

**[01:10:35]** I found a lot of hypocrisy, falseness, intrigues there.

**[01:10:40]** It just seemed very toxic, even in academia.

**[01:10:44]** And paradoxically, I find a kind of purity there,

**[01:10:49]** because people who lost everything and come with just one plastic bag,

**[01:10:53]** have nothing to hide anymore, and usually the person

**[01:10:57]** who hits rock bottom and realizes where they are becomes very humble.

**[01:11:02]** I know they sometimes downplay their faults,

**[01:11:05]** trying to play it a bit better, but I feel good there.

**[01:11:10]** It helps me basically in the same way I help them.

**[01:11:14]** And I'm simply searching for a model for the future,

**[01:11:19]** I'm not some kind of savior of society, nor do I plan to be a minister,

**[01:11:23]** but I'm looking for a model of coexistence and coexistence of people who are diverse.

**[01:11:29]** And they are diverse socially, diverse in education, diverse in views.

**[01:11:33]** We recently came to a Roma settlement to help

**[01:11:37]** and we met a man who has a school there.

**[01:11:41]** And the man came to the leader and told him, 'You are a priest.'

**[01:11:45]** And he replied, 'I am a priest, but we don't have a priest,'

**[01:11:48]** the pastor doesn't want to come to the settlement.

**[01:11:51]** And he introduced himself, saying, 'I am a liberal and a Buddhist.'

**[01:11:55]** And the leader said, 'I am a Catholic and conservative.'

**[01:11:59]** And that helped us with the Roma.

**[01:12:01]** We don't care at all who belongs to which faith.

**[01:12:03]** We don't care at all who follows which philosophy.

**[01:12:09]** What matters to us is helping in the settlement or somewhere else.

**[01:12:14]** And now I imagine a society where we look for

**[01:12:18]** what is good in us and what connects us, not what divides us.

**[01:12:22]** And this is a model we are trying out.

**[01:12:26]** And I say, corporate leaders come to us

**[01:12:31]** and they don't come to hand out money, but to find their city

**[01:12:36]** and the way to connect these worlds.

**[01:12:40]** I don't really hide it,

**[01:12:43]** you are a person who has influenced me a lot in life and still does.

**[01:12:48]** You are simply a teacher whom I somehow attracted to myself

**[01:12:53]** and I kind of grabbed that elastic band a long time ago.

**[01:12:57]** You are someone who has achieved a lot in innovations

**[01:13:01]** in all kinds of companies we can only imagine.

**[01:13:05]** Do you see what is happening now in Dobrý Pastier

**[01:13:09]** as the highest level of innovation as such?

**[01:13:13]** Meaning truly creating added value?

**[01:13:17]** Yes, because we always innovated dead things.

**[01:13:20]** We innovated lines and products.

**[01:13:23]** Beds, or some device or something. And also services.

**[01:13:27]** But here I would say we innovate people.

**[01:13:30]** And you even innovate in a way that the bad, the truly bad in a person,

**[01:13:34]** you try to change it, in the Bible it's called transformation.

**[01:13:37]** That a person who committed many sins,

**[01:13:40]** those saints in the Bible were sinners at first

**[01:13:43]** and then something happened to them.

**[01:13:46]** And this is the biggest innovation. And here you have a book by Bati,

**[01:13:49]** by Gabina Končetiková. Exactly what Bati talked about,

**[01:13:52]** is that you have to build people of character, capable of life.

**[01:13:56]** You have to start with yourself. And then you can build,

**[01:13:59]** like you want, a company. And when you read that story...

**[01:14:02]** I read a book about Jan Antonín Baťa,

**[01:14:05]** how he built cities, factories, everything in Brazil.

**[01:14:08]** But basically, it was all about people.

**[01:14:11]** He pulled people along with him, and that's the most important thing.

**[01:14:15]** A good shepherd, in my opinion, is a community.

**[01:14:18]** I think communities will be key in the future

**[01:14:21]** for us to survive. But not just any communities,

**[01:14:24]** where 100 IT people gather and tell some

**[01:14:27]** IT jokes. There will be clusters,

**[01:14:30]** homogeneous clusters,

**[01:14:33]** each specialized in something. But then we will

**[01:14:36]** transform.

**[01:14:39]** I'll start asking. Daniel asks,

**[01:14:42]** what percentage of people successfully go through transformation?

**[01:14:48]** I don't know the exact number.

**[01:14:51]** I can't say. We will have to start

**[01:14:54]** tracking it now from the feedback records,

**[01:14:57]** from those who tried to get a project. Usually,

**[01:15:03]** We have to adapt to that.

**[01:15:06]** I can't say exactly, but I'll say this: one group of people,

**[01:15:09]** all those with us, have successfully gone through it,

**[01:15:12]** because they don't drink and live in the community.

**[01:15:15]** And they have nowhere else to go. So I'd say that's hundreds of people.

**[01:15:18]** Then there are also, I don't know if hundreds,

**[01:15:21]** or dozens of people, who I would hardly count as having a happy ending,

**[01:15:27]** like Miško.

**[01:15:30]** They don't drink, work outside of us, live outside of us.

**[01:15:33]** The hardest part is managing to live on your own afterwards.

**[01:15:36]** We let a few people into a company,

**[01:15:39]** where at the first paycheck they got drunk.

**[01:15:42]** But maybe they didn't get drunk because they immediately ran to drink,

**[01:15:45]** but in Slovakia, there is a culture of getting drunk.

**[01:15:48]** In Slovakia, if someone is abstinent, they look abnormal,

**[01:15:51]** and those who drink look normal.

**[01:15:54]** And it still persists.

**[01:15:57]** When someone comes and says you don't drink and you're somehow weird.

**[01:16:00]** So we also warn when our people go somewhere,

**[01:16:03]** so they aren't tempted by alcohol or those kinds of things.

**[01:16:06]** I don't know the percentage to say,

**[01:16:09]** but I am satisfied with it.

**[01:16:12]** I am happy about it.

**[01:16:15]** Of course, we could also quantify the number of unsuccessful cases,

**[01:16:18]** where the person died, froze somewhere.

**[01:16:22]** Or drank themselves to death.

**[01:16:25]** But I don't have that number.

**[01:16:28]** And the question, when we were with you, always came up.

**[01:16:31]** And that's actually it.

**[01:16:34]** But the question, in my opinion, is asked differently.

**[01:16:37]** And it is like this: imagine,

**[01:16:40]** that a person comes to that place,

**[01:16:43]** who is really important,

**[01:16:46]** who comes to that place,

**[01:16:49]** who really has no other option left.

**[01:16:52]** Either they die,

**[01:16:55]** or they simply don't die.

**[01:16:58]** There is no other option.

**[01:17:01]** Everyone has given up,

**[01:17:04]** there really is no other option.

**[01:17:07]** Any individual who gets out of it,

**[01:17:10]** is a saved human being.

**[01:17:13]** And that, in my opinion, is the strength of that community,

**[01:17:17]** that this is hard.

**[01:17:20]** So making some charts and stuff...

**[01:17:23]** I completely understand the question and it is actually difficult.

**[01:17:26]** I'll add one more thing.

**[01:17:29]** Some of them, even if bad,

**[01:17:32]** we have the worst of the worst.

**[01:17:35]** Because when we go to Roma settlements,

**[01:17:38]** for example, in the Roma settlement of Ozvolená,

**[01:17:41]** Balkána and Uniónka,

**[01:17:45]** the people who come to us from the homeless scene,

**[01:17:48]** for example, dozens of people came to us from KUF.

**[01:17:51]** KUF is quite well known as a priest in Žákovce.

**[01:17:54]** KUF sends them out as hopeless cases.

**[01:17:57]** And now I don't want to criticize KUF, but he just kicks them out.

**[01:18:00]** So they can only eat with us now.

**[01:18:03]** They wouldn't be accepted anywhere else.

**[01:18:06]** And with us, many will flourish.

**[01:18:09]** And then, when KUF sees it, he wonders,

**[01:18:13]** that the worst of the worst come to us,

**[01:18:16]** those whom no one really wanted anymore.

**[01:18:19]** And now the question is, when someone is cured of cancer,

**[01:18:22]** what does it mean to be cured? That they survived a year.

**[01:18:25]** Or survived two years. There is some limit.

**[01:18:28]** A person comes to us who can be motivated, stops drinking,

**[01:18:31]** and the relapse comes after 7 years and they die.

**[01:18:34]** Did we help them or not?

**[01:18:37]** A person comes to us who dies within 24 hours.

**[01:18:40]** They died with dignity, some confess,

**[01:18:43]** they receive some last rites.

**[01:18:46]** Did we help them or not?

**[01:18:49]** It's hard to say. A boy came to us in Lány,

**[01:18:52]** a 50-year-old man who stopped seeing.

**[01:18:55]** They brought the blind man from the street.

**[01:18:58]** What happened to you? It was in the summer.

**[01:19:01]** In February, he had eye surgery, but they didn't notice,

**[01:19:04]** because they didn't do a CT scan, that he had a brain tumor.

**[01:19:07]** It destroyed his vision. So I took him to the eye doctor.

**[01:19:10]** They threw up their hands, wondering why no CT was done.

**[01:19:13]** He could have seen because the tumor was operable, it was localized.

**[01:19:16]** In the fall, he had a stroke and died in January.

**[01:19:21]** A 50-year-old man. He basically died due to doctors' mistakes.

**[01:19:26]** And now what happened?

**[01:19:29]** Suddenly blind, he was fired from work,

**[01:19:32]** kicked out of the dormitory, and was a blind homeless man.

**[01:19:35]** In three months, he was a blind homeless man just because

**[01:19:38]** a tumor was pressing on his brain and the doctor didn't detect it.

**[01:19:41]** He died with us, but again with dignity,

**[01:19:45]** because we gave him the best care we could.

**[01:19:48]** And if the stroke hadn't come, maybe he would have lived.

**[01:19:53]** Though even then, he probably wouldn't have seen.

**[01:19:56]** But the question is, did we help him or not?

**[01:19:59]** I can't evaluate that.

**[01:20:00]** Is there such a project in the Czech Republic?

**[01:20:06]** It exists. I don't know it in detail, but we do encounter it.

**[01:20:11]** In Brno, we collaborate with Lukáš Sekanina.

**[01:20:14]** They are in the Czech Republic.

**[01:20:16]** I can't name them all, but I know there are similar projects.

**[01:20:19]** I think it's very hard to get good ones.

**[01:20:21]** There are a few like that in Slovakia too.

**[01:20:24]** Yes. We meet in Slovakia.

**[01:20:27]** About 15 institutions of that type.

**[01:20:30]** So we really help each other.

**[01:20:32]** I feel that connection with the business world

**[01:20:36]** and the workshops and entrepreneurship,

**[01:20:39]** you brought into it through your own world.

**[01:20:44]** That's definitely not common practice.

**[01:20:47]** What bothered me a bit is what usually happens to you,

**[01:20:51]** that before Christmas some letter arrives and someone asks for money.

**[01:20:54]** And I have no idea who they are.

**[01:20:56]** The letter is nicely written. Many such letters arrive.

**[01:20:59]** I always say, don't write to sponsors, write to investors.

**[01:21:03]** And you have to write differently to investors.

**[01:21:05]** You need to involve investors in the project.

**[01:21:07]** That means, our team meets with those people

**[01:21:11]** and they are kind of already part of it,

**[01:21:13]** even if externally,

**[01:21:15]** so they can help us,

**[01:21:17]** but we don't have to ask them for anything.

**[01:21:19]** They found their role there.

**[01:21:21]** Specifically, Vojto Pastorčák from Setina,

**[01:21:25]** he supplies the floors.

**[01:21:27]** Whenever he hears we have a new building project,

**[01:21:31]** he comes to measure it himself.

**[01:21:33]** He comes to measure it himself and then comes to install it.

**[01:21:36]** We don't send him any letters,

**[01:21:38]** because he is already part of the whole thing.

**[01:21:41]** That's actually very interesting.

**[01:21:43]** An entrepreneur just called me,

**[01:21:47]** who makes, I don't know if you know papelot,

**[01:21:51]** they make these great blocks.

**[01:21:54]** Making these things costs a lot,

**[01:21:59]** because you have to buy good, quality paper and so on.

**[01:22:02]** And he has to buy it in large quantities.

**[01:22:05]** And in the years he's been doing what he does,

**[01:22:07]** he has a huge hall where he always keeps some of those papers,

**[01:22:11]** that he has left over.

**[01:22:13]** They're dry, and he doesn't know what to do with them.

**[01:22:17]** He says, don't you have any ideas?

**[01:22:21]** I say, why doesn't some sheltered workshop do it?

**[01:22:24]** So give it to them, they can make something out of it.

**[01:22:27]** That's a great idea, it's brilliant.

**[01:22:29]** But the person doesn't think of that.

**[01:22:31]** Now that we're here together,

**[01:22:34]** I assume a good shepherd will make new blocks,

**[01:22:37]** because the guys will get great paper,

**[01:22:40]** so they can somehow earn money with it.

**[01:22:42]** Let's move on to the next question.

**[01:22:45]** Silva asks if the faith of those present is considered.

**[01:22:48]** Do they have to attend mass on Sundays or similar?

**[01:22:51]** We have atheists there, we have a Muslim,

**[01:22:56]** we even had an Australian, a Slovak,

**[01:22:59]** who came to us from the Vatican.

**[01:23:01]** We have many Czechs, Muravaks.

**[01:23:04]** Faith is not considered in the sense

**[01:23:06]** that anyone is checked for their beliefs.

**[01:23:09]** That's a question of how that could even be verified,

**[01:23:12]** or what it even means.

**[01:23:14]** Many people accept faith with us.

**[01:23:16]** For some reason, they just get baptized

**[01:23:19]** or create some kind of sacraments.

**[01:23:21]** Many people start going to confession,

**[01:23:23]** because they find some form of mental hygiene in it.

**[01:23:26]** Maybe it's not even about faith at the start.

**[01:23:29]** But it's not required.

**[01:23:31]** Going to church,

**[01:23:33]** or staying in church, let's call it that.

**[01:23:36]** Just imagine the priest gives a sermon,

**[01:23:39]** and after mass a man comes up to him,

**[01:23:41]** saying, Father, you didn't tell us

**[01:23:43]** that there is holy borovička.

**[01:23:46]** And he misunderstood the word 'bohorodička' (Mother of God).

**[01:23:50]** And now, actually, so it's also

**[01:23:54]** like looking for something somewhere,

**[01:23:56]** but that someone would somehow

**[01:23:59]** vet those people.

**[01:24:00]** The stay in the church is to some extent

**[01:24:03]** enforced by the idea that it's some kind of rest, peace.

**[01:24:06]** Whether they pray or not,

**[01:24:09]** it's not enforced on them.

**[01:24:11]** But it's moderate physical work and quiet,

**[01:24:15]** let's call it that,

**[01:24:17]** that it's some kind of psychohygiene.

**[01:24:19]** But really, there are several faiths there.

**[01:24:25]** We also have Jewish or similar,

**[01:24:29]** and it would probably be unfair

**[01:24:30]** to require any changes from those people

**[01:24:34]** or similar things.

**[01:24:37]** Yes, Ora et Labora is actually something

**[01:24:40]** I think fits in here a lot.

**[01:24:43]** I think it's the Benedictine model,

**[01:24:46]** which is moderate physical work and prayer,

**[01:24:49]** or let's call it spiritual work.

**[01:24:52]** So it's part of the therapy.

**[01:24:56]** Lukáš has...

**[01:24:58]** Usually from the Czechs, when people come to us,

**[01:25:02]** they kind of attack me,

**[01:25:04]** asking why you are connected with the church.

**[01:25:08]** We are not connected with the church.

**[01:25:10]** This is not a church institution.

**[01:25:12]** This is a normal civic association,

**[01:25:14]** founded by Vladimír Maslak.

**[01:25:17]** And the fact that he is a priest is just a side effect.

**[01:25:22]** Lukáš asks, and it's something

**[01:25:25]** I couldn't figure out for a long time.

**[01:25:30]** There are people who don't use the services of a good shepherd

**[01:25:32]** or don't appreciate them.

**[01:25:34]** How do you deal with that?

**[01:25:36]** What rules do you have to assess and handle this?

**[01:25:39]** Say how often a person can...

**[01:25:43]** I don't know, the common word is abuse,

**[01:25:45]** because yes, I don't know,

**[01:25:48]** Sportissimo gave us beautiful clothes,

**[01:25:50]** we receive truckloads of clothes from Sportissimo,

**[01:25:53]** And sometimes I feel like someone comes to us just to get dressed.

**[01:25:56]** A guy comes, one we regularly bring in,

**[01:26:00]** he comes to us...

**[01:26:02]** he comes to us like to a spa.

**[01:26:04]** He gets himself together,

**[01:26:06]** stops drinking for a few weeks,

**[01:26:08]** dresses nicely and then says,

**[01:26:10]** and tonight I'll party at Zelňák,

**[01:26:12]** or whatever they call it there.

**[01:26:14]** Is it abuse? I don't know if it's abuse.

**[01:26:16]** We just do it in good faith,

**[01:26:18]** we try to help everyone.

**[01:26:20]** Yes, there are people who have abused it.

**[01:26:22]** Who also have some mental disorders,

**[01:26:24]** and report us.

**[01:26:26]** We have been investigated.

**[01:26:28]** Mr. Farad regularly goes to the police,

**[01:26:30]** because someone reports him for stealing a dog, a horse,

**[01:26:32]** I don't know what.

**[01:26:34]** So it is abuse, it's a sign of some illness,

**[01:26:36]** a sign of some kind of aggressive behavior.

**[01:26:38]** Basically, we don't refuse anyone.

**[01:26:40]** For example, now people are coming back,

**[01:26:42]** because winter is coming,

**[01:26:44]** so there are people who have always

**[01:26:46]** disappointed us in the past,

**[01:26:48]** started drinking again and

**[01:26:50]** we take them back, because we see them as

**[01:26:52]** lost sons, so they have, I would say,

**[01:26:54]** priority to return,

**[01:26:56]** because they are already ours.

**[01:26:58]** They are ours who have strayed and can come back.

**[01:27:00]** So,

**[01:27:02]** it's hard to define

**[01:27:04]** the concept of disappointment, because I notice, for example,

**[01:27:06]** that relapses

**[01:27:08]** are becoming less frequent, many of these people

**[01:27:10]** then, but sometimes it happens even seven times.

**[01:27:12]** So Mr. Farad says,

**[01:27:16]** that we are supposed to forgive seven, ten, seven times,

**[01:27:18]** and when that's not enough, it's a thing, so we stick to that.

**[01:27:24]** I would

**[01:27:26]** probably end

**[01:27:28]** these questions here,

**[01:27:30]** after all, we have

**[01:27:32]** a Digestive for questions,

**[01:27:34]** which

**[01:27:36]** will definitely come. I'll try

**[01:27:38]** to move a bit further

**[01:27:40]** and definitely don't leave yet,

**[01:27:42]** so I'll return

**[01:27:44]** back.

**[01:27:46]** We would be very glad if you

**[01:27:48]** fill out feedback

**[01:27:50]** with your response to today's breakfast,

**[01:27:52]** how you liked it,

**[01:27:54]** whether it was

**[01:27:56]** five stars, that it was

**[01:27:58]** OK, or zero, that we

**[01:28:00]** have aged and it was worthless.

**[01:28:02]** We're also interested in that one word,

**[01:28:04]** that you recall,

**[01:28:06]** or that zero in your mind,

**[01:28:08]** when you listened to this breakfast,

**[01:28:14]** that would be really great.

**[01:28:16]** Reflection circle.

**[01:28:18]** Those are the aha moments.

**[01:28:20]** So it doesn't always just stay

**[01:28:22]** at talking, try

**[01:28:24]** to make some kind of circle,

**[01:28:26]** like in that photo.

**[01:28:28]** By the way, that was also a nice breakfast

**[01:28:30]** back then at Spojka Karlin

**[01:28:32]** with the then

**[01:28:34]** presidential nominee.

**[01:28:36]** Now we have a different president here.

**[01:28:38]** Innovation.

**[01:28:40]** So what surprised you?

**[01:28:42]** Try to chat about it with someone, if you don't

**[01:28:44]** If you want company, come join us

**[01:28:46]** at Digestive.

**[01:28:48]** We will definitely

**[01:28:50]** invite lots of

**[01:28:52]** great people again. Within

**[01:28:54]** Red Button Edu, you can have a chat.

**[01:28:56]** We can go deeper.

**[01:28:58]** So that's another thing.

**[01:29:00]** As I said,

**[01:29:02]** Brain and Breakfast Business will continue.

**[01:29:04]** Definitely

**[01:29:06]** watch for it. On 8.1.

**[01:29:08]** Luboš Malý.

**[01:29:10]** Changes

**[01:29:12]** as a topic.

**[01:29:14]** A very popular topic.

**[01:29:16]** So on 8.1. you can

**[01:29:18]** enjoy a business breakfast again.

**[01:29:20]** Here with this

**[01:29:22]** team, who

**[01:29:24]** can really talk about changes

**[01:29:26]** for hours and hours.

**[01:29:28]** At the same time,

**[01:29:30]** we have

**[01:29:32]** an announcement.

**[01:29:34]** We have long

**[01:29:36]** thought about how

**[01:29:38]** what Jáno

**[01:29:40]** has done in his life. And you know what?

**[01:29:42]** You can introduce it like this.

**[01:29:44]** What is actually the school of life?

**[01:29:46]** Say it. And why should people

**[01:29:48]** join?

**[01:29:50]** I have

**[01:29:52]** studied various disciplines in life.

**[01:29:54]** I wrote books about it.

**[01:29:56]** And I taught it to different people.

**[01:29:58]** The older I get, the more I realize

**[01:30:00]** that it's all

**[01:30:00]** that I have actually to some extent deceived those people,

**[01:30:03]** because what I could teach them in a short time,

**[01:30:06]** I sometimes taught them for whole weeks and still not very successfully,

**[01:30:09]** so in my old age I tried to distill some extract from all those disciplines

**[01:30:15]** that I devoted myself to.

**[01:30:18]** To select some parts and convey the essence

**[01:30:21]** and give people some kind of workbook

**[01:30:24]** and provide them with some teaching materials that I gathered.

**[01:30:28]** It's basically a kind of farewell of an old man to the business world maybe

**[01:30:33]** and teaching, because I want to dedicate it to a good shepherd.

**[01:30:37]** Just like professor Zelený influenced me greatly and taught me,

**[01:30:43]** he was almost like a father to me, a generation older,

**[01:30:47]** so maybe I could serve some of the younger ones with it.

**[01:30:53]** I believe so, you can learn more at www.kosturek.cz.

**[01:31:00]** There will be 10 stops, 10 meetings directly in 2025.

**[01:31:04]** All of you who have at least a little interest can participate in this.

**[01:31:09]** As I said, Red Button is a wide range of all kinds of things happening.

**[01:31:16]** We do book of the month, Hanka Jadavan took over this project,

**[01:31:21]** and she does it absolutely wonderfully. I just want to show three books here.

**[01:31:27]** The first is the current book of the month.

**[01:31:31]** And that is 'Objective Finding' by Tomáš Šepka.

**[01:31:35]** I don't know who among you has already come across this book,

**[01:31:39]** but if you haven't noticed it yet, I highly, highly, highly recommend it.

**[01:31:46]** Tomáš completely shattered his media image as the muscular perfect doctor without borders

**[01:31:50]** and showed a huge degree of vulnerability.

**[01:31:55]** So if you haven't read this book, which made me cry like a turtle,

**[01:31:59]** I highly recommend this book.

**[01:32:02]** So 'Objective Finding' is the first tip.

**[01:32:05]** The second tip I have, and I greet Gábina and the Tomáš Baťa Foundation from afar.

**[01:32:14]** By coincidence, I received a gift from her yesterday

**[01:32:18]** and Gabča wrote 'Inspiration Baťa 2'.

**[01:32:21]** So it's really fresh, I haven't had time at all yet,

**[01:32:24]** it still smells like shoes, I haven't even had time to dive into it,

**[01:32:28]** but it's something I will definitely read over Christmas.

**[01:32:31]** And for those of you who made the trip, we also have a few books here,

**[01:32:36]** the last will be the first, which is actually the last book

**[01:32:41]** that he wrote, so here is the last book by Ján.

**[01:32:46]** So anyone interested can come and get it here

**[01:32:52]** and stop by with us.

**[01:32:55]** If you need anything, just press the red button.

**[01:33:01]** That's our Red Button slogan.

**[01:33:04]** So try to use it mostly for some business problems.

**[01:33:10]** Or just simply write to me at janzavina.cz.

**[01:33:14]** And as if that wasn't enough, in 2025

**[01:33:20]** Brain and Breakfast will enter its twelfth season.

**[01:33:25]** Twelve is kind of my lucky number,

**[01:33:29]** so I hope it won't be the last season.

**[01:33:33]** The January breakfast, meaning this season,

**[01:33:38]** will be opened by Petr Horký.

**[01:33:40]** I don't know who among you knows Petr.

**[01:33:43]** He is an adventurer, director, a person who has processed a lot.

**[01:33:47]** And when we were preparing this breakfast,

**[01:33:50]** and now that it's finally here,

**[01:33:53]** you forget about the three years it chased him,

**[01:33:57]** during which he also wrote a few books.

**[01:34:02]** We will talk about the planet, changes, and our limits.

**[01:34:06]** It will be a very nice pause.

**[01:34:09]** I wanted to thank you very much with this.

**[01:34:13]** I'm thinking if I should take a little glass,

**[01:34:17]** to have a little toast with you.

**[01:34:19]** Maybe let's do that.

**[01:34:24]** Thank you.

**[01:34:29]** We have non-alcoholic drinks.

**[01:34:32]** So, Jana, what would you wish for the new year?

**[01:34:38]** What would you wish us?

**[01:34:40]** I tell you to be a little kinder,

**[01:34:43]** to be healthy,

**[01:34:45]** not to go crazy from everything

**[01:34:48]** that is pressing on us from outside,

**[01:34:50]** and to be internally resilient, peaceful, and joyful.

**[01:34:54]** I mainly wish you health.

**[01:34:56]** Take care. Bye and see you.

**[01:34:59]** Health.

**[01:35:29]** Health.

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