# Transcript: On life, the planet, our limits, and changes

## Description

Drawing on his extensive experience as a polar explorer, traveling director, and writer over 25 years, our guest will share how to cope with uncertainty, find meaning in everyday life, and face challenges related to climate change and technological progress.



Who is Petr Horký



Petr Horký is a Czech director, writer, and polar explorer whose life is connected with traveling and discovering not only remote corners of the world but also deeper connections of our existence. After studying teaching and a career as a TV presenter, he graduated in film directing and eventually earned a PhD at the Faculty of Social Sciences at Charles University in Prague. His travels have taken him to places like Antarctica, Greenland, and the Himalayas; he has discovered sunken ships in the Maldives, reached both the North and South Poles, crossed Greenland on skis, and more.His documentary films, such as Století Miroslava Zikmunda (nominated for the Czech Lion) and Civilizace: Dobrá zpráva o konci světa (currently distributed in 58 countries worldwide), resonate not only with respect for nature and history but also with the courage to ask questions about the contemporary world and our role in it. Petr is also the author of thirteen books in which he shares his insights, stories, and philosophy based on respect for people, nature, and values. Through his approach to life and work, he inspires all who seek a balance between performance, humanity, and a meaningful life.

## Transcript

**[00:00:00]** Subtitles created by JohnyX http://johnyxcz.blogspot.com

**[00:00:28]** Good morning. Good morning to all of you,

**[00:00:31]** who made the trip here to Magenta Experience Center.

**[00:00:35]** Good morning to everyone watching us live.

**[00:00:39]** Hello, I always have to pick one area,

**[00:00:42]** so today I especially greet everyone in libraries

**[00:00:45]** and especially the library in Opava.

**[00:00:48]** Greetings there because we have lots of fans.

**[00:00:51]** No, greetings also to companies, coworking centers, and schools.

**[00:00:54]** I'm glad you're watching us

**[00:00:56]** and that you're still with us in this twelfth season,

**[00:00:59]** which we are opening today with this breakfast and the year 2025.

**[00:01:03]** Brain and Breakfast breakfasts wouldn't exist,

**[00:01:07]** if we didn't have partners.

**[00:01:09]** One of them is Magenta Experience Center,

**[00:01:12]** which we thank very much for this beautiful place.

**[00:01:15]** Then there's Frutissimo, where, when you come here,

**[00:01:19]** you can have a great breakfast and taste it.

**[00:01:23]** It's also Slajdu, which is actually a feature

**[00:01:28]** that you will be using in a moment.

**[00:01:30]** And none of this would happen without the Red Button network,

**[00:01:35]** which takes on the mission to cultivate society

**[00:01:38]** especially in the company and business environment.

**[00:01:40]** And if you're watching us, whether recorded or live,

**[00:01:43]** this QR code will sometimes appear for you

**[00:01:46]** and it will take you to the network's newsletter.

**[00:01:49]** The newsletter is called Shortcut

**[00:01:51]** and I think you won't miss anything interesting from

**[00:01:55]** what the individual members of the network are doing.

**[00:01:59]** So thank you.

**[00:02:01]** As I said, and many of you already know,

**[00:02:04]** this is an interactive breakfast.

**[00:02:07]** So you will be able to ask questions.

**[00:02:10]** Please get your mobile phones ready

**[00:02:15]** and look at this QR code,

**[00:02:18]** you can scan it,

**[00:02:19]** or if you're watching us live,

**[00:02:22]** right below the stream you have a Slajdu window,

**[00:02:25]** where you will be able to ask questions.

**[00:02:31]** So, this is the interactive question.

**[00:02:35]** I'll launch the first question now

**[00:02:38]** and it's whether this is your first time at the breakfast or not,

**[00:02:42]** so we can actually test the signal,

**[00:02:47]** to see if it works.

**[00:02:48]** So if you're there live.

**[00:02:51]** I already see votes coming in,

**[00:02:53]** so at least one person is watching us,

**[00:02:56]** which is good news.

**[00:02:58]** I believe a few more will be watching us.

**[00:03:02]** I always enjoy these results

**[00:03:05]** and especially when this one appears.

**[00:03:08]** It means more people haven't been to the breakfast before.

**[00:03:10]** That means our bubble is expanding,

**[00:03:13]** and that's something I really enjoy.

**[00:03:15]** Of course, I appeal to you,

**[00:03:17]** if you like this breakfast

**[00:03:19]** or have attended one recently,

**[00:03:23]** we always publish them with a three-month delay.

**[00:03:26]** We have them archived, so you can happily share them.

**[00:03:29]** Because I got some information somehow,

**[00:03:35]** that today's presentation will be a bit different,

**[00:03:38]** so I'll skip everything else

**[00:03:41]** and try to get straight to our guest.

**[00:03:45]** I'm very happy

**[00:03:47]** that a person has joined us

**[00:03:49]** who meets three basic criteria for me.

**[00:03:52]** Petr, I welcome you here.

**[00:03:54]** Good day.

**[00:03:56]** Thank you very much.

**[00:04:01]** The three are.

**[00:04:03]** Petr has seen and experienced a lot.

**[00:04:05]** That's, I think, a good prerequisite.

**[00:04:08]** He has met many interesting people,

**[00:04:10]** which is, for me, the second sign of that.

**[00:04:14]** But the third, the most important,

**[00:04:16]** is that Petr tells stories brilliantly.

**[00:04:19]** So maybe he will invite you to one story today.

**[00:04:22]** We called it about the life of a planet

**[00:04:24]** and our limits and changes.

**[00:04:28]** Peter, here is the baton.

**[00:04:29]** I'm looking forward to the lecture.

**[00:04:31]** Thank you.

**[00:04:32]** Thank you very much.

**[00:04:33]** Good day.

**[00:04:34]** I greet you all.

**[00:04:35]** What I want to share with you

**[00:04:37]** is actually a very unusual situation,

**[00:04:39]** because I really like breakfasts.

**[00:04:43]** I like breakfasts where I read,

**[00:04:45]** where I solve something,

**[00:04:46]** and I can sit calmly for an hour,

**[00:04:48]** two hours at breakfast,

**[00:04:49]** which some of my friends or acquaintances find

**[00:04:52]** almost crazy.

**[00:04:55]** So I went to have breakfast.

**[00:04:57]** I just ate a moment ago.

**[00:04:58]** But the situation is very unusual,

**[00:05:00]** because I am actually in the middle

**[00:05:02]** of a rather large empty space.

**[00:05:04]** About five meters from me

**[00:05:06]** are the audience.

**[00:05:08]** Good day.

**[00:05:09]** I'm very glad to greet you here.

**[00:05:10]** You are very important to me,

**[00:05:11]** because I feel from you some,

**[00:05:13]** or I hope to feel from you

**[00:05:15]** some feedback on what

**[00:05:16]** I will say.

**[00:05:17]** And now I know that all over the country

**[00:05:20]** in libraries and companies

**[00:05:23]** and other places

**[00:05:24]** there are people watching.

**[00:05:25]** I know this because last week

**[00:05:27]** people from all over the country wrote to me

**[00:05:29]** and said, 'You will be at our library.'

**[00:05:31]** And I said, 'Yes, but virtually.'

**[00:05:33]** I know you are there, so I greet you there too.

**[00:05:35]** And so a person tries to tune in to the fact

**[00:05:37]** that I have people here, but far away,

**[00:05:40]** that I still have you very far away

**[00:05:42]** and that I have some thoughts,

**[00:05:44]** that I want to share with you.

**[00:05:45]** So I'll start with that,

**[00:05:46]** because I can reveal right at the beginning,

**[00:05:48]** so we don't have any secrets here,

**[00:05:50]** that the strange way,

**[00:05:52]** how Honza Mašek found out,

**[00:05:53]** that today's presentation would be longer,

**[00:05:55]** that strange way was this,

**[00:06:03]** I'll go through it and I think it will somehow work.

**[00:06:07]** Yield.

**[00:06:08]** I want to say one important thing,

**[00:06:11]** that my mornings are usually very fast

**[00:06:14]** and full of action.

**[00:06:16]** And I think most of you are like that too.

**[00:06:18]** So I thought,

**[00:06:19]** that I would first just show a few pictures,

**[00:06:21]** to tune in,

**[00:06:22]** to tell us how it will be,

**[00:06:24]** what it will be like.

**[00:06:25]** So I picked a photo from Mustang

**[00:06:28]** from a Buddhist temple,

**[00:06:29]** where monks prayed at sunrise.

**[00:06:32]** Buddhism is now popular in the West,

**[00:06:35]** so we can tune in and align with it.

**[00:06:37]** This is how they prayed there in the morning,

**[00:06:39]** and this is how all the mantras were repeated over and over.

**[00:06:42]** So people started to tune in there,

**[00:06:44]** and it was freezing cold like crazy.

**[00:06:46]** This is exactly from Mustang.

**[00:06:48]** Sometimes absolutely incredible views open up there,

**[00:06:51]** when the landscape comes together.

**[00:06:53]** And I believe that through this,

**[00:06:56]** we will start to meet together in a different mood.

**[00:06:59]** This is now from November, from Nepal,

**[00:07:02]** a view from Gokyo Ri mountain to Everest.

**[00:07:07]** Just above Everest, the moon is rising.

**[00:07:10]** It beautifully coincided,

**[00:07:12]** that the sun was setting

**[00:07:14]** and it shone on those eight-thousand-meter peaks

**[00:07:16]** while everywhere else it was already dark

**[00:07:18]** and the moon rose like this, creating a beautiful atmosphere.

**[00:07:20]** Amadablam and before that a beautiful little house.

**[00:07:23]** I thought to myself, this is an inner conflict.

**[00:07:26]** Whether I would want to live there or not,

**[00:07:28]** it would be chilly and freezing in that house,

**[00:07:30]** but the place is incredibly beautiful.

**[00:07:32]** This is Kundupik, 4,500 meters high.

**[00:07:36]** What was that guy doing there?

**[00:07:38]** He came to look around too, obviously.

**[00:07:41]** My beloved Antarctica.

**[00:07:43]** This was taken just a bit from the Czech polar station

**[00:07:45]** Johann Gregor Mendel on James Ross Island.

**[00:07:48]** That striking hill is Bibi Point

**[00:07:51]** and such incredible sunsets

**[00:07:53]** or such incredible light

**[00:07:55]** the rising sun can create there.

**[00:07:57]** Seeing it is a once-in-a-lifetime experience.

**[00:08:01]** It's a bit desaturated.

**[00:08:03]** A few people told me I must have heavily over-processed it in some

**[00:08:05]** final program.

**[00:08:07]** I said, on the contrary, it's desaturated

**[00:08:09]** to make it look believable.

**[00:08:11]** This is inner Antarctica, an ice field,

**[00:08:13]** near the Union Glacier station,

**[00:08:15]** which is inside the center of Antarctica,

**[00:08:17]** or almost in the center of Antarctica.

**[00:08:20]** All expedition logistics start from here.

**[00:08:23]** I found those three rays amazing there

**[00:08:25]** and those three tiny little ones too.

**[00:08:27]** It even seems religious to me,

**[00:08:29]** that it is simply...

**[00:08:31]** And all around you is ice.

**[00:08:33]** Three thousand meters thick.

**[00:08:35]** Three kilometers of ice are beneath you when you're there.

**[00:08:37]** And beneath that is solid ground.

**[00:08:39]** At the South Pole, I couldn't resist,

**[00:08:41]** to rent a snowbike there,

**[00:08:43]** because all time zones converge there.

**[00:08:45]** So if you cycle around the South Pole station,

**[00:08:47]** you've crossed all the world's time zones.

**[00:08:49]** And you're either a day older or a day younger.

**[00:08:55]** That seems like the wildest landscape closest to Europe.

**[00:08:57]** It's just a short trip and it's simply beautiful there.

**[00:08:59]** And now I'm slowly getting to the topic

**[00:09:01]** that I'll be talking about today.

**[00:09:03]** This was taken in Italy,

**[00:09:05]** in the Tyrolean Alps,

**[00:09:07]** while climbing a hill,

**[00:09:09]** right opposite Tre Cime.

**[00:09:11]** I don't remember its name.

**[00:09:13]** But suddenly the fog broke apart like this beside us.

**[00:09:15]** There, just a tiny bit more.

**[00:09:17]** I tell myself these are moments

**[00:09:19]** when you meet your limits,

**[00:09:21]** and when you're that tiny speck,

**[00:09:23]** or the one taking this photo,

**[00:09:25]** you realize your own insignificance.

**[00:09:27]** And I don't mean this in a dramatic way,

**[00:09:29]** I mean it simply,

**[00:09:31]** that's just how it is,

**[00:09:33]** that I'm really dealing with fundamental,

**[00:09:35]** key questions

**[00:09:37]** related to the functioning of the Earth, the globe, and humanity.

**[00:09:39]** But when I realize this,

**[00:09:41]** I can tell myself that I'm really just a tiny speck,

**[00:09:43]** and when I'm gone,

**[00:09:45]** nothing that dramatic will actually happen.

**[00:09:47]** And alongside that, there are moments

**[00:09:49]** when you say to yourself,

**[00:09:51]** I am the most important person in the world.

**[00:09:53]** When you shine your light,

**[00:09:55]** illuminate and create.

**[00:09:57]** And when it is like that,

**[00:09:59]** when it is like that,

**[00:10:01]** when it is like that,

**[00:10:03]** when it is like that,

**[00:10:05]** when it is like that,

**[00:10:07]** when it is like that,

**[00:10:09]** when it is like this,

**[00:10:00]** and you tell yourself that it all makes sense, I'm in the right place, I'm the right person.

**[00:10:05]** And these, in my opinion, are the boundaries, these are the places where we meet real limits.

**[00:10:11]** When people ask me about limits, and this is a photo from crossing Greenland, that's me,

**[00:10:16]** one morning, it was about minus 35 degrees and very windy, so everything froze, even my face.

**[00:10:24]** So when people ask me about limits, they usually expect me to talk about things like,

**[00:10:29]** you have to push yourself and find strength inside, and when you think you can't, you still have 30% strength left.

**[00:10:34]** I think that way is not how a person truly reaches their limits.

**[00:10:40]** Or they reach limits that are hard to overcome, hard to cross.

**[00:10:44]** And just clenching your teeth and pushing forward isn't always a joy.

**[00:10:52]** In fact, a person can hurt themselves, can push through things they should actually address or step back from.

**[00:10:58]** I believe our real limits are completely different.

**[00:11:02]** And those then reflect in limits of performance, efficiency, fame, success, or intimacy, silence.

**[00:11:10]** And these are the topics I want to talk about and which I think I can encounter in a key way,

**[00:11:16]** for example, when I'm on some polar expeditions.

**[00:11:19]** Today, I actually won't tell you anything else but this, I will just elaborate on it somehow.

**[00:11:25]** When I know who I am, that means when my personality somehow holds together,

**[00:11:33]** these are actually four or five of the hardest questions we all face in our lives.

**[00:11:39]** Who am I? There is no universal answer to that, and even if I figured it out now,

**[00:11:44]** the whole rest of life it still changes and evolves.

**[00:11:47]** There is never a definitive answer to that.

**[00:11:49]** Why am I where I am? That means, do I know what matters to me, do I know where I want to go, do I know my goal.

**[00:11:55]** Another one, one of the hardest questions.

**[00:11:57]** What am I useful for? What am I here for?

**[00:12:00]** That means some awareness of purpose. Another huge thing.

**[00:12:03]** When we did surveys among employees in the UK,

**[00:12:07]** and we can just take this as kind of the zero game of today,

**[00:12:11]** this will be the third, just think about it and ask yourself,

**[00:12:14]** how is my work and my job essential and beneficial for my society,

**[00:12:19]** my friends, and this world.

**[00:12:21]** And when they did this survey in the UK, about 70% of people said,

**[00:12:25]** they don't see the meaning there.

**[00:12:27]** They don't know at all what it's for.

**[00:12:29]** That's a huge limit.

**[00:12:31]** It's hard to develop and grow there.

**[00:12:33]** What am I useful for? What am I here for?

**[00:12:36]** And finally, what do I want.

**[00:12:38]** What do I really want.

**[00:12:40]** Yes, I want everyone to love each other.

**[00:12:42]** I want people not to lie.

**[00:12:44]** I want politicians to be the best of us,

**[00:12:46]** who will lead the world to better gains, no way.

**[00:12:48]** We have completely different dreams inside us.

**[00:12:50]** Completely different wishes.

**[00:12:52]** That's where I meet that.

**[00:12:54]** I want the neighbor's goat to die.

**[00:12:56]** That's where I truly meet myself.

**[00:12:59]** I do all of this for a different reason.

**[00:13:01]** Outwardly, it looks like something else.

**[00:13:03]** But I want people to tell me something.

**[00:13:05]** I want power.

**[00:13:07]** There is again a huge jungle of big topics,

**[00:13:09]** that we deceive ourselves with.

**[00:13:11]** And getting to the point where I say what I really want.

**[00:13:14]** That's not easy either.

**[00:13:16]** And these four parameters define where our limits are.

**[00:13:19]** And there, in exactly the same way.

**[00:13:21]** Steve Jobs had limits there.

**[00:13:23]** I know this for sure because I talked about it

**[00:13:25]** with his personal coach.

**[00:13:27]** Olympic athletes have limits there.

**[00:13:32]** And we talked, these are the places that move forward.

**[00:13:35]** And that then reflect in the way

**[00:13:37]** we appear in our entire surrounding world.

**[00:13:41]** Among people, in space, in time.

**[00:13:43]** Today I planned it so,

**[00:13:45]** that I won't disappoint those again,

**[00:13:47]** who expected something travel-related

**[00:13:49]** or something from the world.

**[00:13:51]** That I picked photos from my travels.

**[00:13:53]** So I'll take you on a trip.

**[00:13:55]** Or on trips.

**[00:13:57]** And it will also be a talk about

**[00:13:59]** what I think,

**[00:14:01]** what's going on in my head.

**[00:14:03]** So I'll invite you here too.

**[00:14:05]** I'll invite you into my heart or my soul.

**[00:14:07]** So there will be photos from my travels

**[00:14:09]** and we'll walk through my world and my fields.

**[00:14:11]** So that's the first thing.

**[00:14:13]** I belong here.

**[00:14:15]** If we all say now...

**[00:14:17]** Right now, at this very moment,

**[00:14:19]** where I am now, it's right that I'm here.

**[00:14:21]** I belong here, it's right.

**[00:14:23]** I'm glad to be where I am.

**[00:14:25]** I want to be here.

**[00:14:27]** Everything I rejected

**[00:14:29]** and could have done differently,

**[00:14:31]** and instead, I'm here.

**[00:14:33]** Countless things you could have done differently,

**[00:14:35]** and now you're watching me.

**[00:14:37]** Is it worth it to you?

**[00:14:39]** And of course, this can be applied much more broadly

**[00:14:41]** in your life, in your job,

**[00:14:43]** with the people you live with, the people you meet.

**[00:14:45]** Do these four questions hold up?

**[00:14:47]** A lot of us

**[00:14:49]** run away from these questions.

**[00:14:51]** We know the categorical no,

**[00:14:53]** but to avoid admitting it,

**[00:14:55]** we bury ourselves in lots of work, tasks,

**[00:14:57]** duties, and all sorts of things,

**[00:14:59]** so it won't be true.

**[00:15:01]** It becomes clear when I am somewhere,

**[00:15:03]** I have friends who know I travel to polar regions,

**[00:15:05]** or I have a lecture about the polar areas,

**[00:15:07]** and often someone comes up to me

**[00:15:09]** after the lecture and says, Mr. Horký,

**[00:15:11]** why on earth do you go to that misery?

**[00:15:13]** And at one point I realized,

**[00:15:16]** just out of curiosity in that photo,

**[00:15:18]** on the left there's a little person, you can see him there.

**[00:15:20]** It beautifully shows,

**[00:15:22]** how big those piled-up heaps of snow are.

**[00:15:24]** Once you realize there's a person there,

**[00:15:26]** I realized one huge thing,

**[00:15:28]** that I am there and I want to be there.

**[00:15:30]** And I'm happy to be there.

**[00:15:32]** And alongside that, a lot of people

**[00:15:34]** is at home in the warmth,

**[00:15:36]** but they wouldn't want to be there at all.

**[00:15:38]** Or at work. They wouldn't want to be there with those people.

**[00:15:40]** They wouldn't want to be there with those tasks.

**[00:15:42]** They wouldn't want to be there with those values,

**[00:15:44]** which they have to somehow accept, build, and create.

**[00:15:46]** And suddenly I'm in that polar region,

**[00:15:48]** which looks insanely inhospitable from the outside,

**[00:15:50]** how terrible it is, but I feel great there,

**[00:15:52]** I am happy there.

**[00:15:54]** And I wouldn't trade places with a huge number of people,

**[00:15:56]** who are comfortably warm,

**[00:15:58]** at home or at work,

**[00:16:00]** or somewhere else.

**[00:16:02]** But they are actually in a terrible hell,

**[00:16:04]** serving anxiety and fears,

**[00:16:06]** that they will argue again,

**[00:16:08]** that they will be fired, that their salary will be cut,

**[00:16:10]** that they won't meet the plan, that they will miss something.

**[00:16:12]** And now, I'm not here to speak

**[00:16:14]** against the employee system,

**[00:16:16]** I'm not against corporations,

**[00:16:18]** but I am against

**[00:16:20]** people doing something they hate,

**[00:16:22]** living in an environment they despise,

**[00:16:24]** being with people they don't like.

**[00:16:26]** And suddenly those are huge limits.

**[00:16:28]** These are hard things, terribly complicated.

**[00:16:30]** And again, I belong here, I like it here,

**[00:16:32]** I want to be here, it's worth it to me.

**[00:16:34]** And at that moment I think,

**[00:16:36]** we are all polar explorers.

**[00:16:38]** Each of us is on some personal

**[00:16:40]** polar expedition.

**[00:16:42]** I am convinced,

**[00:16:44]** that I personally really believe,

**[00:16:46]** that no one lives life halfway.

**[00:16:48]** That you would say, it doesn't matter.

**[00:16:50]** That simply everyone

**[00:16:52]** is trying to pull it together

**[00:16:54]** to live my life as best as I can

**[00:16:56]** and with myself

**[00:16:58]** and with the world.

**[00:17:00]** And we are successful in different ways,

**[00:17:02]** we succeed differently. I also don't have

**[00:17:04]** all my journeys successful,

**[00:17:06]** all my journeys well done.

**[00:17:08]** It's also not true that I always reach my goal,

**[00:17:10]** which I set at the beginning. It always moves me somewhere.

**[00:17:12]** So I think each of us has

**[00:17:14]** our own pole, each of us is on our own expedition.

**[00:17:16]** It's just not necessary that around it

**[00:17:18]** there are physically pieces of cold ice,

**[00:17:20]** which could maybe kill us.

**[00:17:22]** To dramatize it.

**[00:17:24]** But these things are hidden.

**[00:17:26]** They are hidden in animosities,

**[00:17:28]** in dissatisfaction, hatred, anger, in quarrels.

**[00:17:30]** And so we come

**[00:17:32]** ultimately to the question, who am I then.

**[00:17:34]** Who? Corucinal. I am.

**[00:17:36]** The first time a person deals with it.

**[00:17:38]** Our little Eva

**[00:17:40]** dealt with it when she was five years old.

**[00:17:42]** Who is I, daddy?

**[00:17:44]** Who is I, when I have I inside me?

**[00:17:46]** Do I feel I? Am I I when I touch my hand?

**[00:17:48]** Or am I, do I feel,

**[00:17:50]** that I am more I inside.

**[00:17:52]** Great, amazing.

**[00:17:54]** And we all deal with it at some moments in our lives.

**[00:17:56]** Absolutely everyone.

**[00:17:58]** And I have it at least like this,

**[00:18:00]** to find out who I am.

**[00:18:02]** At least a little. I said at the beginning,

**[00:18:04]** that a person never fully finds out.

**[00:18:06]** So I have to stop.

**[00:18:08]** And it doesn't mean to stop,

**[00:18:10]** like standing still and doing nothing.

**[00:18:12]** But of course it means,

**[00:18:14]** that maybe I'll set off on that polar journey.

**[00:18:16]** Everything that happens here,

**[00:18:18]** makes me feel like I'm in Europe, at home,

**[00:18:20]** and yet I'm in a completely different world,

**[00:18:22]** in different time-space conditions.

**[00:18:24]** And it triggers something inside me.

**[00:18:26]** It suddenly starts working somehow within.

**[00:18:28]** And I recall some painful situations,

**[00:18:30]** joyful situations.

**[00:18:32]** And through that, I actually discover and understand who I am.

**[00:18:34]** When trouble happens,

**[00:18:36]** when I suddenly really fear for my life,

**[00:18:38]** at that moment I behave exactly

**[00:18:40]** as I truly am.

**[00:18:42]** I would always rescue women and children first

**[00:18:44]** from a burning train.

**[00:18:46]** Until I was in that burning train

**[00:18:48]** and started rescuing them,

**[00:18:50]** I didn't know that.

**[00:18:52]** We all have some values and principles,

**[00:18:54]** but in certain specific situations,

**[00:18:56]** we behave in a certain way, and that's when we find out

**[00:18:58]** who we really are.

**[00:19:00]** And I think that's a very important question,

**[00:19:02]** that it's worth sometimes stopping.

**[00:19:04]** That means really giving yourself the time

**[00:19:06]** to say, who exactly am I.

**[00:19:08]** This is a photo I sometimes send,

**[00:19:10]** when they tell me, Mr. Horký, you'll have a lecture,

**[00:19:12]** send us a photo, we'd like

**[00:19:14]** to show you there, so I send it,

**[00:19:16]** and they reply with a kind of facepalm,

**[00:19:18]** like, please, something where you are visible.

**[00:19:20]** And I really like this photo of mine.

**[00:19:22]** This is me. That's me completely happy.

**[00:19:24]** That's me happy when I was marching

**[00:19:26]** to the North Pole. I made a huge mistake,

**[00:19:28]** having those two icicles on my nose,

**[00:19:30]** that was my big rookie mistake,

**[00:19:32]** it never happened again because it froze me,

**[00:19:34]** My mouth was shut and I couldn't eat or drink all day.

**[00:19:36]** But that doesn't matter, at that moment I was

**[00:19:38]** incredibly happy to be in those

**[00:19:40]** harsh conditions and that I managed

**[00:19:42]** to do everything that eventually got me there.

**[00:19:44]** So this is me. This is one

**[00:19:46]** of the many important faces of who I am.

**[00:19:48]** This photo is from the Ecuadorian

**[00:19:50]** Amazon, this man

**[00:19:52]** has already passed away, his name was

**[00:19:54]** Minihua and he was from the Naváorany tribe,

**[00:19:56]** and there during

**[00:19:58]** the initiation ritual, every new adult man takes responsibility for the whole world.

**[00:20:00]** That is also who I am. At the moment when any of us, women and men, though it's still gender outdated there,

**[00:20:07]** but in our world I truly believe we are equal, men and women alike.

**[00:20:13]** When I say I am responsible for the whole world, it completely changes the fundamental way I operate.

**[00:20:18]** Suddenly, I am one of the guardians of the world. Fine, okay. Totally fine.

**[00:20:24]** I can be a guardian of the world somewhere in a border town with thirty inhabitants.

**[00:20:28]** That works perfectly. And I will have enough to do my whole life.

**[00:20:32]** When I know that, it is huge.

**[00:20:35]** Today, the world is full of various teachings. You can be anyone.

**[00:20:38]** Push boundaries, dare, decide, and you will become anyone, improve at anything.

**[00:20:42]** Karol Dveková wrote an amazing, famous book about the potential we all have inside.

**[00:20:48]** Personally, I don't think we can be absolutely anyone.

**[00:20:54]** That's why I have those pictures, they are not my photos, you probably recognized them from The Simpsons,

**[00:20:58]** those scary creatures. I think it's easy to create something like that from yourself.

**[00:21:03]** And by willpower, decision, toughness, discipline, each of us can create something like that.

**[00:21:08]** Absolutely no problem. And I'm sure you know a few such people.

**[00:21:14]** They don't look like that on the outside, but if you get to know them a bit more,

**[00:21:18]** you have met every one of those toothy faces.

**[00:21:22]** I could name several men, how many such people I know.

**[00:21:26]** I believe a person can, by decision and determination, become an average anyone.

**[00:21:30]** If I decided to be a tennis player, it wouldn't be a miracle.

**[00:21:40]** But to hit the racket at an average level. I would learn how to handle it, how everything should be done.

**[00:21:47]** When a person really decides, they can achieve at least average results.

**[00:21:52]** But if I have the ambition to be really better, truly exceptional at something,

**[00:21:58]** to really succeed in something, then I am inevitably faced with the question: who am I?

**[00:22:05]** Who am I then?

**[00:22:11]** I really like what Anička Hogenová said when we recorded a big webinar for the Socrato.cz portal,

**[00:22:20]** She said it's not easy to say who I really am, but you can find out who I cannot not be.

**[00:22:28]** Jan Patočka called it groping one's way.

**[00:22:31]** That I can gradually realize that if I remove or suppress this from my life, I suffer.

**[00:22:36]** Then that's not my whole self.

**[00:22:38]** So aha, I cannot not be this.

**[00:22:40]** I can hold this within myself, I need to be this in some way.

**[00:22:46]** It can be a character trait, a way of life, values, or activities.

**[00:22:52]** And I think that's where it starts, and each of us can find some solid point there,

**[00:23:02]** this is a photo from Bosnia and Herzegovina, from a climbing festival where we were filming with Adam Ondra.

**[00:23:07]** I really like it as a metaphor for how we all live.

**[00:23:10]** We walk from somewhere to somewhere, feeling connected to both the start and the end.

**[00:23:14]** But that doesn't firmly hold us.

**[00:23:17]** And on top of all that, we have to balance everything we are.

**[00:23:20]** With every step, we unsettle what’s beneath us.

**[00:23:23]** And it rocks us like a cradle.

**[00:23:25]** And we still know there’s no other way than to either fall or move forward.

**[00:23:29]** You can do anything again.

**[00:23:31]** No, in this situation, and we all live in this situation, it’s not that I can do anything.

**[00:23:36]** I have to get there.

**[00:23:38]** If I don’t want to end up hanging on a safety rope on a cliff,

**[00:23:42]** I just have to resolve it. That’s how our lives are.

**[00:23:44]** Whatever we do, we have to somehow tie it up until death.

**[00:23:48]** That seems like a big thing to me.

**[00:23:52]** I took this photo when Vašek Sůra and I were the first in the world to cross the frozen lake

**[00:23:56]** Chuvzgul in Mongolia, and it seems like a beautiful example of

**[00:24:00]** how a person can enjoy solitude in the polar region.

**[00:24:03]** And that means either enjoying it or enduring it.

**[00:24:06]** There are people who can’t be alone with themselves.

**[00:24:09]** There I meet again who I am and who I am not.

**[00:24:12]** So I’m probably really running away if I can’t be alone with myself.

**[00:24:15]** I knew Preet Chandi, a British woman with Indian roots.

**[00:24:20]** She is the first Indian woman to reach the South Pole.

**[00:24:25]** And because she’s an incredible woman, as the first woman in the world,

**[00:24:29]** and the fastest woman in the world, she crossed Antarctica,

**[00:24:32]** reaching the South Pole from the sea the fastest.

**[00:24:35]** And currently, when it’s no longer climatically possible,

**[00:24:38]** she’s preparing to go from Canada to the North Pole,

**[00:24:42]** which means she will have to swim a significant part of the journey.

**[00:24:45]** She’s a slim, beautiful, friendly girl, and it’s a lot of fun with her.

**[00:24:50]** She’s just a totally cool, pleasant girl.

**[00:24:52]** And she goes solo.

**[00:24:54]** And when I asked her how she manages all those situations with herself,

**[00:24:58]** she laughed like this and said, I'm a good companion to myself.

**[00:25:01]** That's okay.

**[00:25:03]** That's a great sentence. I'm a good companion to myself.

**[00:25:06]** It's not easy to admit that.

**[00:25:09]** Imagine if I suddenly had to be alone somewhere for half a day,

**[00:25:14]** it would be great, I'd be glad to be with myself.

**[00:25:17]** Yeah, who would I meet, what would it be like.

**[00:25:19]** I have a little game, in case, by chance, you don't enjoy my photos

**[00:25:24]** and what I say, which of course I don't believe, but just in case,

**[00:25:28]** I thought this game could always refresh things a bit.

**[00:25:31]** So the first game, you can write it down.

**[00:25:33]** This is especially good when you write things down,

**[00:25:35]** but you can also just process it in your head.

**[00:25:38]** I see some of you are reaching for something, so I'll wait a moment,

**[00:25:42]** until you get it.

**[00:25:43]** I will have three questions, three topics, it's very simple

**[00:25:47]** and we'll just try to see what it does to us, how it changes us.

**[00:25:51]** So, first question.

**[00:25:52]** Write down five things why it's good.

**[00:25:54]** For some, this is an incredibly difficult task.

**[00:25:57]** I already see several people in magenta shaking their heads, like they won't say it.

**[00:26:01]** So bite the bullet.

**[00:26:03]** Don't tell anyone, don't even write it down if you're shy,

**[00:26:06]** but say to yourself quietly five, no less, really no less,

**[00:26:10]** five things you're good at.

**[00:26:12]** I'll give you a moment.

**[00:26:14]** Count it, try it, and be kind to yourself,

**[00:26:17]** allow yourself to feel satisfied with yourself.

**[00:26:21]** Now take a moment to indulge in the so-called sin,

**[00:26:25]** of being satisfied. Five things you're good at.

**[00:26:29]** Can I continue?

**[00:26:33]** Now write a name above it.

**[00:26:37]** Someone the best, a complete stranger, someone you don't know. Pepík.

**[00:26:40]** Pepík colon and below it, the five things that are good.

**[00:26:43]** You have a name written above it.

**[00:26:45]** And now read what Pepík is like.

**[00:26:48]** It doesn't concern you at all.

**[00:26:53]** Pepík can do these five things.

**[00:26:55]** What does that do to you? Pepík is clever, isn't he?

**[00:26:57]** Pepík will probably be pretty nice.

**[00:26:59]** What is that?

**[00:27:01]** We often insult ourselves for being stupid.

**[00:27:06]** And what we can do, we consider completely ordinary.

**[00:27:09]** And when we project it onto a stranger we don't know,

**[00:27:12]** we say that this person isn't bad, I could probably get along with them.

**[00:27:15]** Or it's good that this person can do that.

**[00:27:17]** I appreciate this quality.

**[00:27:19]** And what about you?

**[00:27:21]** It's a trivial, silly, simple game.

**[00:27:23]** And just that shift in perspective does a lot.

**[00:27:26]** Many of us have some kind of inner critic,

**[00:27:29]** who is merciless.

**[00:27:31]** And that's a whole topic on its own.

**[00:27:33]** I hear voices.

**[00:27:35]** This was taken by Evička or Lucinka,

**[00:27:37]** when we were at the Museum of Illusions.

**[00:27:40]** And we all know it.

**[00:27:42]** We argue with ourselves in our heads.

**[00:27:45]** I messed up, I should have done it and I didn't.

**[00:27:47]** Why didn't I go earlier?

**[00:27:49]** If I had gone earlier, I would have made it.

**[00:27:51]** Or what should I do? I would rather do this.

**[00:27:53]** But now I should do that.

**[00:27:55]** How come? That's weird, right?

**[00:27:57]** So I am me, I have it inside me,

**[00:27:59]** and yet I can be uncertain with myself.

**[00:28:01]** So I'm like crazy,

**[00:28:03]** because I can't agree with myself.

**[00:28:05]** But it's even more tangled.

**[00:28:07]** We don't control those voices with reason.

**[00:28:09]** It just connects on its own.

**[00:28:11]** A big topic.

**[00:28:13]** Dealing with unwanted thoughts.

**[00:28:15]** Something clicks inside us,

**[00:28:17]** and I think things I don't want to think.

**[00:28:19]** Whether it's that it's unethical,

**[00:28:21]** or that I don't want to think about it, that I want to reject it.

**[00:28:23]** It's the same there.

**[00:28:25]** And as if that wasn't enough,

**[00:28:27]** the voices can contradict each other.

**[00:28:29]** Then it starts whispering, like I'm totally crazy,

**[00:28:31]** I'm an idiot, I have no idea what to do.

**[00:28:33]** This comes to mind, that, this, that.

**[00:28:35]** Opposing each other, half of it is rude,

**[00:28:37]** the other half is unethical.

**[00:28:39]** So what should I do, how do I live with myself?

**[00:28:41]** It's also connected the other way around,

**[00:28:43]** or on the other hand,

**[00:28:45]** to make it more complex,

**[00:28:47]** it's connected inside us so that

**[00:28:49]** we probably all agree

**[00:28:51]** that killing animals is unpleasant.

**[00:28:53]** We probably all agree that it's terrible

**[00:28:55]** when they are painfully

**[00:28:57]** and cruelly slaughtered in slaughterhouses

**[00:28:59]** and suffer in those farms.

**[00:29:01]** Most of us want to eat meat.

**[00:29:03]** Damn. Many of us don't want to smoke,

**[00:29:05]** but still light a cigarette.

**[00:29:07]** And now they scold themselves, but they just keep smoking.

**[00:29:09]** Overweight people want to be slim.

**[00:29:11]** And they know, the knowledge is everywhere.

**[00:29:13]** We can't say we don't know what to do.

**[00:29:15]** If anything is a curse of today's times,

**[00:29:17]** it's that I can look up anywhere

**[00:29:19]** what I should do.

**[00:29:21]** So for those who drink and want to stop drinking,

**[00:29:23]** give me ten minutes, I'll show you ten ways

**[00:29:25]** to get rid of it.

**[00:29:31]** And you know it yourself.

**[00:29:33]** But it doesn't happen. Damn it.

**[00:29:35]** We all want to learn other languages,

**[00:29:37]** some skill.

**[00:29:39]** Why isn't it happening?

**[00:29:41]** On one level, the Toltecs, South Americans,

**[00:29:43]** are famous.

**[00:29:45]** They say we have mitote in our heads.

**[00:29:47]** Huge confusion.

**[00:29:49]** Mitote means party in Spanish.

**[00:29:51]** And that already improves the situation,

**[00:29:53]** because when I'm alone with myself

**[00:29:55]** in some conflict, I say,

**[00:29:57]** damn, I have a party in my head.

**[00:29:59]** And I tell myself that I have a party in my head.

**[00:30:00]** I have a party in my head, and that sounds much better.

**[00:30:02]** An interesting approach was taken

**[00:30:04]** by an American

**[00:30:06]** psychologist Leon Festinger,

**[00:30:08]** who

**[00:30:10]** coined the term cognitive

**[00:30:12]** dissonance. That's exactly this situation.

**[00:30:14]** I do something

**[00:30:16]** but I don't want to do it. I eat meat, but I don't want to

**[00:30:18]** kill animals. I'm in cognitive

**[00:30:20]** dissonance. I know something

**[00:30:22]** and it doesn't match how I actually live.

**[00:30:24]** What if we're in cognitive dissonance

**[00:30:26]** with our work?

**[00:30:28]** What if I'm supported by something that doesn't seem to me

**[00:30:30]** to be right?

**[00:30:32]** What if the essence of my livelihood

**[00:30:34]** is that I'm involved in something

**[00:30:36]** terrible? I work in a factory, when I go

**[00:30:38]** to the parking lot, I see how this is just

**[00:30:40]** poisonous waste into the river.

**[00:30:42]** I know it, it annoys me,

**[00:30:44]** and I just have to do something like that.

**[00:30:48]** What if I make cigarettes?

**[00:30:50]** What if I make energy

**[00:30:52]** drinks that I offer so young kids

**[00:30:54]** buy them, which harm them, or so people

**[00:30:56]** buy them in bars and mix them with alcohol,

**[00:30:58]** which hurts those people.

**[00:31:00]** There are tons of things where a person

**[00:31:02]** finds themselves in cognitive dissonance

**[00:31:04]** much deeper than, as I

**[00:31:06]** mentioned before, when it is truly existential.

**[00:31:08]** A deep question.

**[00:31:10]** So, that's the bottom line,

**[00:31:12]** to get rid of cognitive

**[00:31:14]** dissonance, we have two approaches.

**[00:31:16]** That's what Mr. Festinger left us here.

**[00:31:18]** We can either change our attitude,

**[00:31:20]** but feel free to keep killing animals.

**[00:31:22]** I like to eat them.

**[00:31:24]** Done, and I'm in harmony.

**[00:31:26]** Or I change my behavior.

**[00:31:28]** I won't eat meat for ethical reasons.

**[00:31:30]** It bothers me so much that someone

**[00:31:32]** kills animals that I'm a happy vegetarian.

**[00:31:34]** It makes me happy.

**[00:31:36]** Both steps are difficult.

**[00:31:38]** Changing either attitude or behavior,

**[00:31:40]** neither is easy, so

**[00:31:42]** many of us remain in that state.

**[00:31:45]** It's very interesting how some business companies,

**[00:31:47]** that do unhealthy or even harmful things,

**[00:31:49]** handle this with their employees.

**[00:31:51]** There is a classic rule for that.

**[00:31:53]** Look, am I Big Brother,

**[00:31:55]** to decide about my clients' lives?

**[00:31:57]** They are sane people,

**[00:31:59]** they decide for themselves.

**[00:32:01]** I provide a service

**[00:32:03]** and they don't have to buy our cigarettes

**[00:32:05]** or our alcohol.

**[00:32:07]** It's their choice,

**[00:32:09]** or to play on our slot machines.

**[00:32:11]** I have a gaming hall and those people don't have to be addicted

**[00:32:13]** to the slot machines.

**[00:32:15]** I won't claim about myself

**[00:32:17]** that I forbid them to play on slot machines

**[00:32:19]** and harm them by

**[00:32:21]** closing my gaming hall.

**[00:32:23]** I changed my attitude,

**[00:32:25]** cognitive dissonance is gone,

**[00:32:27]** I think everyone is responsible for themselves.

**[00:32:29]** I could be a drug dealer,

**[00:32:31]** I'm not forcing people, I'm not injecting them with drugs,

**[00:32:33]** they can buy it themselves.

**[00:32:35]** I don't want to say that everyone,

**[00:32:37]** is good at recognizing their cognitive dissonances

**[00:32:40]** and saying, yeah, I'll live with this cognitive dissonance,

**[00:32:42]** it's worth it to me,

**[00:32:44]** or I'll change my attitude or my behavior.

**[00:32:46]** Life gets simpler,

**[00:32:48]** a huge amount of mental energy is freed up,

**[00:32:51]** which you can direct anywhere you want

**[00:32:53]** and significantly push your limits in something

**[00:32:55]** you want to improve in.

**[00:32:57]** You'll have resources to draw from.

**[00:32:59]** As I said, I believe

**[00:33:01]** we all follow our own polar path,

**[00:33:03]** which is a crazy energy drain,

**[00:33:05]** so I end up with a huge mental energy capital

**[00:33:08]** to improve in something.

**[00:33:10]** And this is one of the key moments

**[00:33:12]** where a person can move forward.

**[00:33:14]** Once I trained a spokesperson for a

**[00:33:17]** global cigarette company,

**[00:33:20]** a verbally skilled,

**[00:33:23]** extroverted lady,

**[00:33:25]** who was unable,

**[00:33:27]** when she had to recall,

**[00:33:29]** to speak convincingly

**[00:33:31]** at a public event with people.

**[00:33:33]** So I started talking with her,

**[00:33:35]** said everyone out,

**[00:33:37]** we'll talk alone,

**[00:33:39]** and we found out she had an internal conflict.

**[00:33:41]** She told me, I sell smokes.

**[00:33:43]** That was the moment.

**[00:33:45]** Are you living with this?

**[00:33:47]** I imagine a good, satisfied cigarette company employee is a smoker.

**[00:33:50]** That fits, that's totally fine there,

**[00:33:52]** and if this lady told me that,

**[00:33:54]** I said, then we have to do it differently.

**[00:33:56]** It has to be rewritten so that you don't have to say,

**[00:33:58]** I came to sell you smart,

**[00:34:00]** but the speech must include things

**[00:34:02]** that you are aligned with.

**[00:34:04]** We rewrote the text in 10 minutes

**[00:34:06]** and in 15 minutes the lady spoke perfectly.

**[00:34:08]** I was the intimidating guy there,

**[00:34:10]** because the managers came and asked,

**[00:34:12]** what did you do with her?

**[00:34:14]** We train here every day,

**[00:34:16]** and now she's this great.

**[00:34:18]** I didn't do anything with her,

**[00:34:20]** she just changed the text once,

**[00:34:22]** but such trivial things,

**[00:34:24]** free up a huge amount of energy for a person

**[00:34:26]** to be effective at something.

**[00:34:28]** And we hold ourselves back somehow.

**[00:34:30]** I recommend it. I recommend diving into this topic again.

**[00:34:32]** Why do I go into that horror?

**[00:34:34]** Because I am happy there.

**[00:34:36]** Why do you live that horror?

**[00:34:38]** We all have it differently, and I don't mean

**[00:34:40]** that you all live in horror.

**[00:34:42]** This is not an accusation, just a challenge.

**[00:34:44]** Of course, I have some horrors

**[00:34:46]** and some little hells inside me, and it's up to us

**[00:34:48]** how we deal with them.

**[00:34:50]** Identity, integrity.

**[00:34:52]** Two words I really enjoy.

**[00:34:54]** Identity, integrity, in English,

**[00:34:56]** it's I, I, me, me.

**[00:34:58]** Such a beautiful thing.

**[00:35:00]** Identity and integrity,

**[00:35:02]** twice me. What am I like? Who am I?

**[00:35:04]** And where am I going?

**[00:35:06]** So, where am I headed?

**[00:35:08]** What is it about?

**[00:35:10]** I think the next two photos illustrate it beautifully.

**[00:35:12]** This is Egypt, Giza.

**[00:35:16]** I'm standing, with a pyramid behind me,

**[00:35:18]** looking at Cairo.

**[00:35:20]** It's a mix of history,

**[00:35:22]** the Middle Ages,

**[00:35:24]** a modern megacity, Cairo.

**[00:35:26]** And there's simply a journey through space

**[00:35:28]** and time of an incredible scale.

**[00:35:30]** Or the other photo.

**[00:35:32]** When you arrive at the pyramids

**[00:35:34]** and look at Cairo, it looks like this.

**[00:35:36]** A lot of people don't even know

**[00:35:38]** that the pyramids are actually in the city.

**[00:35:40]** And again, where am I heading?

**[00:35:42]** Am I heading out through the jungle,

**[00:35:44]** or back from the jungle,

**[00:35:46]** from history to my world,

**[00:35:48]** or from my world somewhere to the past?

**[00:35:50]** What is actually my path?

**[00:35:52]** With this, I want to calm all of us, including myself.

**[00:35:56]** I believe,

**[00:35:58]** there is no person on the planet

**[00:36:00]** who knows exactly where they're going

**[00:36:02]** and walks straight there.

**[00:36:04]** I'm convinced that's how it is,

**[00:36:06]** that we simply have a winding world,

**[00:36:10]** where we decide

**[00:36:12]** always here and now,

**[00:36:14]** and only behind us does it paint the path.

**[00:36:16]** And I think behind us the path

**[00:36:18]** is winding and, in the best case,

**[00:36:21]** it even leads somewhere at all.

**[00:36:24]** In a better case, it might even rise,

**[00:36:26]** like here in Norway,

**[00:36:29]** on the troll trail,

**[00:36:31]** where I took this photo.

**[00:36:33]** But we vaguely sense,

**[00:36:36]** where we want to go, and only when we get there,

**[00:36:38]** that's ultimately the famous Jobs' speech

**[00:36:40]** at Stanford to students,

**[00:36:42]** where he said, it seems now,

**[00:36:44]** that the whole Apple story

**[00:36:46]** had a clear goal from the start,

**[00:36:48]** that I wanted to achieve.

**[00:36:50]** I had that vision,

**[00:36:52]** but when I look back at every crossroads,

**[00:36:54]** when I was making decisions,

**[00:36:56]** I was terribly afraid that I would ruin everything,

**[00:36:58]** that it would end badly, that I would fail.

**[00:37:00]** We all live like this.

**[00:37:02]** So it's not about

**[00:37:04]** you having to be famous after all,

**[00:37:06]** with tons of stories from world-famous figures,

**[00:37:08]** who normally say about themselves,

**[00:37:10]** You know, I had no idea it would turn out like this.

**[00:37:12]** I didn't know at all that this would happen to me.

**[00:37:14]** Soon I'll talk about a lady

**[00:37:16]** who is a beautiful example of this.

**[00:37:18]** It's also good to realize

**[00:37:20]** that when we have some overly lofty

**[00:37:22]** and big goals,

**[00:37:24]** they can completely change and rearrange

**[00:37:26]** throughout life.

**[00:37:28]** It can beautifully happen

**[00:37:30]** that at one moment

**[00:37:32]** we simply say,

**[00:37:34]** this is complete nonsense now.

**[00:37:36]** What I care about or strive for now

**[00:37:38]** is worthless.

**[00:37:40]** And again, it's better to admit this

**[00:37:42]** in your 50s, 60s, or 70s,

**[00:37:44]** than on your deathbed.

**[00:37:46]** On your deathbed, we might be honest with ourselves,

**[00:37:48]** but that's too late to fix anything.

**[00:37:50]** But anytime during life,

**[00:37:52]** I can stop and say,

**[00:37:54]** I want this, I'm happy here,

**[00:37:56]** I'm satisfied, my path

**[00:37:58]** towards the goal I set,

**[00:38:00]** really has value,

**[00:38:04]** what I sacrifice for it,

**[00:38:06]** because I do sacrifice for it,

**[00:38:08]** if not something bigger,

**[00:38:10]** then simply the time of my life.

**[00:38:12]** And those are the moments,

**[00:38:14]** you can easily try to escape from it,

**[00:38:16]** but when a person tells themselves

**[00:38:18]** the truth,

**[00:38:20]** about the value of our life,

**[00:38:22]** when we say it to ourselves,

**[00:38:24]** we are in the hospital,

**[00:38:26]** I would do anything,

**[00:38:28]** to not have to lie here another week,

**[00:38:30]** the fifth week in a row,

**[00:38:32]** how gladly I would clean,

**[00:38:34]** argue with someone at work,

**[00:38:36]** rather than lie here like an idiot.

**[00:38:38]** Suddenly we meet

**[00:38:40]** the substance of the time of our life.

**[00:38:42]** Of course, it awaits us,

**[00:38:44]** when we have long waits

**[00:38:46]** at airports, in trams,

**[00:38:48]** at stops,

**[00:38:50]** which we can catch up on,

**[00:38:52]** that is, when a person is dying.

**[00:38:54]** If life grants them

**[00:38:56]** a gradual dying,

**[00:38:58]** or at least dying in peace,

**[00:39:00]** perhaps even surrounded by loved ones,

**[00:39:02]** then I think,

**[00:39:04]** a person is mercilessly exposed to

**[00:39:06]** telling themselves,

**[00:39:08]** what I did in different phases of my life,

**[00:39:10]** was it worth the time I sacrificed for it.

**[00:39:12]** If they gave me one more day now,

**[00:39:14]** what of the things I didn’t do,

**[00:39:16]** would that be perhaps

**[00:39:18]** the biggest, biggest,

**[00:39:20]** the biggest, biggest,

**[00:39:22]** the biggest, biggest,

**[00:39:24]** the biggest, the biggest,

**[00:39:26]** the biggest, the biggest,

**[00:39:28]** the biggest, the biggest,

**[00:39:30]** the biggest,

**[00:39:32]** the biggest,

**[00:39:34]** the biggest,

**[00:39:36]** the biggest,

**[00:39:38]** the biggest,

**[00:39:40]** the biggest,

**[00:39:42]** the biggest,

**[00:39:44]** the biggest,

**[00:39:46]** the biggest,

**[00:39:48]** the biggest,

**[00:39:50]** the biggest,

**[00:39:52]** the biggest.

**[00:40:00]** that you probably can't just pull this off from memory,

**[00:40:03]** but it still gives you something if you just don't feel like writing or taking notes.

**[00:40:07]** So you can just think about who you'd like to make up with.

**[00:40:10]** And now it doesn't matter how.

**[00:40:12]** That you'd wish that person would come to you and say,

**[00:40:15]** hey, I'm sorry, I want us to be friends again.

**[00:40:18]** Or who you'd want to approach.

**[00:40:21]** Maybe you don't have anyone like that, maybe you're lucky,

**[00:40:24]** and you have a clean slate with everyone, but maybe someone comes to mind.

**[00:40:27]** Write down that name.

**[00:40:29]** Or there can be more names.

**[00:40:32]** Now imagine you have plenty of time.

**[00:40:35]** I believe that if you're watching this breakfast,

**[00:40:38]** you're thinking, well, I have time now, that's why I can sit here this morning during work hours.

**[00:40:42]** But what if I told you, you have a month or even a year,

**[00:40:48]** you don't have to do anything, I pay for everything, just relax,

**[00:40:50]** choose anything you would do.

**[00:40:53]** Okay, three days.

**[00:40:55]** If you had three days now, to keep it realistic,

**[00:40:58]** what would you do? Anything at all.

**[00:41:00]** You can invite anyone, plan it however you want.

**[00:41:03]** An activity you've always thought you'd like to try, like painting,

**[00:41:05]** but never had the courage, so you'd say, I'd try painting for three days.

**[00:41:08]** Oh, these were just scribbles.

**[00:41:10]** But just put down completely casually what you'd do,

**[00:41:14]** if you had a lot of time.

**[00:41:16]** And now imagine you can choose absolutely anything.

**[00:41:19]** Like 'I want to be an astronaut or an Indian'.

**[00:41:21]** Now go ahead and put that down.

**[00:41:23]** I would want to be a famous model.

**[00:41:25]** Aro, no, not at all, quite the opposite.

**[00:41:27]** To hell with being a model, when I was 14 maybe, but not anymore.

**[00:41:30]** I would want to, yeah, I would want to cook.

**[00:41:32]** Or men, the same.

**[00:41:34]** Think about it, if you could turn everything off and for those three days

**[00:41:38]** be completely anyone.

**[00:41:40]** I would want to be Leonardo DiCaprio.

**[00:41:42]** Yeah, sure, put down absolutely anything.

**[00:41:44]** You have it there.

**[00:41:46]** Now something harder.

**[00:41:48]** What emotions can you not express?

**[00:41:50]** We're experts at that, us men.

**[00:41:52]** I can't express fear.

**[00:41:54]** I can't express hurt, pain.

**[00:41:56]** I can't express that I don't know.

**[00:41:58]** That's a typical male blind spot.

**[00:42:00]** I'd include that too,

**[00:42:02]** but also things that women are afraid to express.

**[00:42:05]** So tell yourself, what is the hardest emotion for you

**[00:42:08]** that you should express.

**[00:42:10]** And it doesn't matter that everything inside you screams

**[00:42:12]** that you shouldn't say it or show it.

**[00:42:14]** Just say what it is.

**[00:42:16]** And probably several will come to mind.

**[00:42:18]** Try to pick one.

**[00:42:20]** And lastly, as a contrast,

**[00:42:22]** so we don't end up in a cramp.

**[00:42:24]** When are you completely relaxed and not controlling yourself at all?

**[00:42:27]** Ah, that time at Mejdanu, that was great.

**[00:42:29]** I totally switched off, wow.

**[00:42:31]** Or when we had a fire with the family back then,

**[00:42:33]** we were roasting busty all of a sudden,

**[00:42:35]** I felt completely calm and at peace.

**[00:42:37]** So try to recall a situation like that.

**[00:42:40]** And if there are more such situations,

**[00:42:42]** What is the common denominator there?

**[00:42:44]** When do you really let yourself go completely?

**[00:42:47]** Dude, the father can't be there, like.

**[00:42:49]** Also, like in Braky, I can be anywhere,

**[00:42:52]** but this person can't be there.

**[00:42:54]** And then it's fine.

**[00:42:56]** Yeah, also. Yeah, totally chill.

**[00:42:58]** That's good, I like how some of us laughed here.

**[00:43:00]** That's good.

**[00:43:02]** So it doesn't have to be just what I want there,

**[00:43:04]** it can also be what I don't want there.

**[00:43:06]** Like, done.

**[00:43:08]** And I'm glad it made you laugh.

**[00:43:12]** I put on that sign,

**[00:43:14]** which forbade entry,

**[00:43:16]** another sign.

**[00:43:18]** And it has two meanings.

**[00:43:21]** One thing is directly related to the game,

**[00:43:23]** which we just played.

**[00:43:25]** I actually asked you about five things,

**[00:43:27]** which relate to what

**[00:43:29]** people most often express

**[00:43:31]** they neglected in their lives,

**[00:43:33]** they say it when they are dying.

**[00:43:35]** There is Mrs. Bronnie Ware,

**[00:43:37]** who is written down there,

**[00:43:39]** who worked,

**[00:43:41]** or maybe still works,

**[00:43:43]** as a caregiver in a hospice for dying people,

**[00:43:46]** and talked with those people,

**[00:43:48]** who are already there,

**[00:43:50]** it's the last stop,

**[00:43:52]** from there they only go to the morgue

**[00:43:54]** or the crematorium.

**[00:43:56]** And people most often regret that,

**[00:43:58]** they worked too hard,

**[00:44:00]** that they didn't have the courage to live their own life,

**[00:44:02]** that they didn't have the courage to express their feelings,

**[00:44:04]** that they lost relationships with people,

**[00:44:06]** they wanted to have,

**[00:44:08]** who they wanted to meet with

**[00:44:10]** and that they didn't allow themselves to be happy.

**[00:44:12]** That's really strange, isn't it?

**[00:44:14]** Not allowing yourself to be happy.

**[00:44:16]** We feel tasks, duties, like something has to be done

**[00:44:18]** and that I'll be happy afterwards

**[00:44:20]** or even that being happy is like a vice.

**[00:44:22]** That's what people regret the most when they die.

**[00:44:24]** Just now during the game, we kind of

**[00:44:26]** touched on that a bit humorously

**[00:44:28]** and the advantage is that it's quite likely

**[00:44:30]** that most of us still have

**[00:44:32]** quite a few years ahead

**[00:44:34]** or at least weeks,

**[00:44:36]** I don't want to jinx it,

**[00:44:38]** of life, when at least

**[00:44:40]** we can try to do something with those five things.

**[00:44:42]** Anyway, we're probably not on our deathbed,

**[00:44:44]** if you're lucid enough

**[00:44:46]** and cognitively capable

**[00:44:48]** to participate in this

**[00:44:50]** kind of advisory event and this occasion.

**[00:44:52]** So that's a huge gift

**[00:44:54]** in what I can try

**[00:44:56]** and where I suddenly see the values

**[00:44:58]** that many people see

**[00:45:00]** as key when they die.

**[00:45:02]** And Mrs. Broný Wér, that's exactly the story

**[00:45:04]** of a winding path, when you have no idea

**[00:45:06]** where you'll end up, I think,

**[00:45:08]** she's Australian, had a period

**[00:45:10]** when she was a musician, a folk player,

**[00:45:12]** it didn't really work out,

**[00:45:14]** she went through various jobs until she somehow

**[00:45:16]** ended up in a hospice, and you think,

**[00:45:18]** well, that's the end, what are you doing?

**[00:45:20]** Helping the dying.

**[00:45:22]** You can see that as just the absolute end

**[00:45:24]** or on the contrary, damn, that's a great mission.

**[00:45:26]** That's a big thing.

**[00:45:28]** And she found it there, that big thing,

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**[00:49:44]** which is such a thing,

**[00:49:46]** which is such a thing,

**[00:49:48]** which is such a thing,

**[00:49:50]** which is such a thing,

**[00:49:52]** which is such a thing,

**[00:49:54]** which is such a thing,

**[00:49:56]** which is such a thing.

**[00:50:00]** If I know that I am the one pursuing it, I know, I sense who I am, or at least who I cannot not be,

**[00:50:07]** then at that moment, if it’s winding, okay, we’ll see how much more tangled it gets,

**[00:50:12]** maybe it will get even more tangled, who knows.

**[00:50:14]** And if even that’s not enough, this photo seems like quite a nice story to me,

**[00:50:20]** or a nice reminder, it’s Pashupatinath, a temple in Kathmandu.

**[00:50:25]** There, on the burning pyre, a dead person’s body is being cremated,

**[00:50:32]** and when it burns out, the ashes are swept into the river and carried away.

**[00:50:36]** And that’s not shameful, it’s not bad, it’s not bad news, it just is.

**[00:50:40]** It’s also written in the Bible, praxis, you turn the practice, it’s pathetic there,

**[00:50:44]** here you see it, and the experience of seeing it is quite good.

**[00:50:47]** And even the little monkey there seems great to me, as it suddenly puts the context back together.

**[00:50:52]** Those two photos, three tiny ones more on the edge of the cliff in that gigantic nature,

**[00:50:58]** or that one amazing figure lit by the sun on the peak of that summit.

**[00:51:03]** Both, even that, both.

**[00:51:05]** Both belong there, both are fine.

**[00:51:07]** Alright, so we’ve figured out who we are, how it is now with what I really want.

**[00:51:18]** I wrote a text called 'Fulfilling My Dreams is Stupid'.

**[00:51:21]** I have it on my blog.

**[00:51:23]** It sparks discussions in quite extreme positions.

**[00:51:27]** Either it’s an accusation, what kind of nonsense is this, you who spend your whole life just fulfilling your dreams,

**[00:51:32]** and now you’re preaching that it should end,

**[00:51:35]** or on the contrary, thank you very much, because we agree with you, that’s how it is.

**[00:51:39]** It’s important, I’m not against dreams.

**[00:51:42]** I’m not against someone fulfilling a dream.

**[00:51:45]** On the contrary, it’s a huge engine, huge energy,

**[00:51:49]** a huge nourishment for the whole being to fulfill something you deeply desire.

**[00:51:54]** What makes me sick, though, is when someone has a bucket list with 50 things.

**[00:51:59]** These are my dreams and I will fulfill them all during my life.

**[00:52:01]** And now he goes on, ticking off boxes, and halfway through he realizes it brings neither satisfaction nor joy.

**[00:52:06]** That it's not it.

**[00:52:07]** That's the kind of inner conflict Cassan has.

**[00:52:12]** He already picked up 50 of the most beautiful women far and wide,

**[00:52:16]** has another 50 chosen, but realized he actually doesn't enjoy it.

**[00:52:20]** Damn, what now?

**[00:52:21]** Something's wrong.

**[00:52:23]** Cognitive dissonance, attitude, behavior, you can work with that somehow.

**[00:52:28]** I think it's good not to overeat at the Swedish buffet of the rich life of the present,

**[00:52:36]** regardless of how hard our or your lives may be.

**[00:52:40]** I don't want to simplify the burden you have to carry.

**[00:52:43]** But we still have the option to choose somehow,

**[00:52:46]** and live with the fact that there are 30 dreams, I'd want them all, but I won't manage them all,

**[00:52:50]** that's crap, what a stupid life.

**[00:52:52]** No, pick the dreams that will remain in the landscape of unfulfilled ones until death,

**[00:52:56]** choose a few dreams that you say you'll at least try for.

**[00:53:00]** We'll see, but I'll try.

**[00:53:02]** And pick dreams that somehow something will happen with them.

**[00:53:05]** I think it's foolish to base your life on fulfilling all those dreams.

**[00:53:10]** I think there's a thin line somewhere,

**[00:53:14]** that separates the three pairs of words I have there, being and doing.

**[00:53:18]** Like, I am someone, so being someone shows in that,

**[00:53:25]** I'm glad I can talk to you here, that I travel the world,

**[00:53:28]** that I make films, write books, and who knows what else.

**[00:53:30]** Or I do it to get somewhere.

**[00:53:34]** So now I don't really enjoy it, but who knows, maybe I'll get some deal out of it.

**[00:53:37]** Or I don't want to be on this path now, but if I climb that whole hill,

**[00:53:42]** I'll come back and tell everyone I climbed that hill,

**[00:53:45]** and I'll finally be a badass.

**[00:53:46]** To be clear about it.

**[00:53:48]** More like I do something so I can say something later,

**[00:53:51]** but right now it really annoys me.

**[00:53:53]** Or I do it for the sake of it.

**[00:53:55]** And even now, even if it doesn't have results yet,

**[00:53:57]** I say, yeah, fine, good.

**[00:53:59]** I really like Jágr in this.

**[00:54:01]** I've never met him in my life.

**[00:54:03]** Where I was and he had Járu's autograph, I saw that he lives.

**[00:54:05]** And really exists.

**[00:54:07]** And we've never talked, but it seems to me,

**[00:54:09]** that he amazingly transcended the boundaries of the sport called hockey,

**[00:54:14]** by showing how much he truly loves it.

**[00:54:16]** If a world legend and NHL ace just comes

**[00:54:20]** and starts playing in Kladno, or for Kladno,

**[00:54:23]** it simply means hockey can't be without that.

**[00:54:26]** And it's not shameful at all, veteran, damn,

**[00:54:29]** he's just hanging around, playing some little hockey.

**[00:54:32]** Perlajs is an amazing, admirable guy who loves it

**[00:54:35]** and who still is who he is.

**[00:54:37]** And suddenly the message feels fantastic and beautiful to me.

**[00:54:41]** Pleasure, satisfaction.

**[00:54:43]** What is pleasure?

**[00:54:44]** Pleasure is that I just drink this here now.

**[00:54:48]** It's totally great, fresh, I really like it.

**[00:54:50]** Like fruit juices, sorry, one more.

**[00:54:52]** Wonderful.

**[00:54:54]** But I can't build a satisfied life on that.

**[00:54:57]** There are many things that offer pleasure.

**[00:54:59]** Fine, nothing against them,

**[00:55:01]** but something else brings satisfaction.

**[00:55:03]** Drinking ten of these bottles every day,

**[00:55:05]** would cause something completely different,

**[00:55:07]** than my life satisfaction.

**[00:55:09]** So it's good to say to yourself,

**[00:55:11]** sure, I add pleasure,

**[00:55:13]** but I know that my satisfaction in life

**[00:55:15]** doesn't stand on that pleasure,

**[00:55:17]** or on many pleasures.

**[00:55:19]** So I'll compare it somehow.

**[00:55:21]** This thing amuses me a bit,

**[00:55:23]** I have to learn something about it,

**[00:55:25]** which isn't really from you,

**[00:55:27]** but I know that if I master it,

**[00:55:29]** I'll feel much greater satisfaction

**[00:55:31]** in my life, so I'll endure it,

**[00:55:33]** I'll go that way.

**[00:55:35]** And the same goes for managing and creating.

**[00:55:37]** We all have so many tasks and duties in life,

**[00:55:39]** that very easily

**[00:55:41]** we wouldn't do anything else,

**[00:55:43]** than spending their whole life just doing tasks and duties.

**[00:55:45]** That's the managing part.

**[00:55:47]** And it's good to have space for creation too.

**[00:55:49]** When I say no,

**[00:55:52]** but now I'll do something,

**[00:55:54]** now I really want to and I will focus on it.

**[00:55:56]** There is nothing more terrible

**[00:55:58]** than when someone says,

**[00:56:00]** when I finally have a 3 million car,

**[00:56:02]** everyone will finally respect me.

**[00:56:04]** So now I do a job I hate,

**[00:56:06]** spend all that money on it,

**[00:56:08]** and my life doesn't change at all.

**[00:56:10]** That's pure hell,

**[00:56:12]** that's the worst thing.

**[00:56:14]** It's nice to see it in material things,

**[00:56:16]** but of course, much more

**[00:56:18]** and in a more fundamental way it reflects

**[00:56:20]** in our inner world,

**[00:56:22]** in who we are

**[00:56:24]** And I create it by

**[00:56:26]** who I meet, what I do,

**[00:56:28]** how I spend my time,

**[00:56:30]** that sometimes I think,

**[00:56:32]** that sometimes I stop.

**[00:56:34]** And it's good to have both.

**[00:57:04]** and where the procurement spills over

**[00:57:06]** into the creation as well.

**[00:57:08]** It's good to have both and work with them.

**[00:57:10]** This photo is from Columbus,

**[00:57:12]** when I thought to myself,

**[00:57:14]** that it's tangled,

**[00:57:16]** it's held,

**[00:57:18]** but it reaches to the sky.

**[00:57:20]** And from the darkness between those buildings

**[00:57:22]** you suddenly climb out

**[00:57:24]** and look out over the harbor,

**[00:57:26]** which is in Columbus.

**[00:57:28]** Somehow I think,

**[00:57:30]** that it is,

**[00:57:32]** somehow I think,

**[00:57:34]** that it works.

**[00:57:36]** It's very dangerous

**[00:57:38]** with all these wise sayings,

**[00:57:40]** but that was my idea,

**[00:57:42]** when I went to the northern pole.

**[00:57:44]** It will be like this.

**[00:57:46]** When I get there, it will be like this.

**[00:57:48]** Then I also took this photo,

**[00:57:50]** but it looked like this.

**[00:57:52]** You can't plan that, it's impossible.

**[00:57:54]** All those people who are there,

**[00:57:56]** they are Italians,

**[00:57:58]** who paid for a round trip tour

**[00:58:00]** and arrived exactly at the moment

**[00:58:02]** when we were coming.

**[00:58:04]** So no contemplation,

**[00:58:06]** no realization,

**[00:58:08]** when you are there with completely different thoughts,

**[00:58:10]** and they run around, take photos, bump into you,

**[00:58:12]** then fly away and you stand there thinking,

**[00:58:14]** this is why I did it all.

**[00:58:18]** And it's good there,

**[00:58:20]** when a person

**[00:58:22]** is able within themselves

**[00:58:24]** to say, yes,

**[00:58:26]** That's why I did it all.

**[00:58:28]** That's pretty good,

**[00:58:30]** because this is exactly the situation

**[00:58:32]** when I can say, well, I'm a complete fool.

**[00:58:34]** What am I doing here?

**[00:58:36]** I'm cold here.

**[00:58:38]** And it's close, of course,

**[00:58:40]** these things are always close.

**[00:58:42]** I'll go back to that photo,

**[00:58:44]** because it has another aspect.

**[00:58:46]** At the North Pole,

**[00:58:48]** because the ice is constantly moving,

**[00:58:50]** there really isn't even a stamp.

**[00:58:52]** There's simply no stationmaster,

**[00:58:54]** who would pat you on the shoulder and give you a stamp.

**[00:58:56]** Péťa, the hot one, reached the North Pole.

**[00:58:58]** As Frištenský said, there's nothing there,

**[00:59:00]** there really is nothing.

**[00:59:02]** You just walk on the ice,

**[00:59:04]** and the GPS shows you're at the North Pole.

**[00:59:06]** That changes in your mind,

**[00:59:08]** not in the landscape.

**[00:59:10]** And similarly,

**[00:59:12]** if I covered the North Pole sign there,

**[00:59:14]** someone would say,

**[00:59:16]** what's that fool showing off in a field.

**[00:59:18]** But when we put up the sign,

**[00:59:20]** damn, that's cool.

**[00:59:22]** That's how it looks there,

**[00:59:24]** I had no idea, that's decent.

**[00:59:26]** A mental game, what it does to us,

**[00:59:28]** and just what we're used to

**[00:59:30]** with cultural concepts,

**[00:59:32]** that we assign some value to it.

**[00:59:34]** The North Pole probably isn't a joke,

**[00:59:36]** so that's decent.

**[00:59:38]** Covered again, idiot in the field.

**[00:59:40]** It's great to be able to look at yourself like that

**[00:59:42]** in terms of your own achievements.

**[00:59:44]** I'm such a good fisherman,

**[00:59:46]** that I caught the biggest pike

**[00:59:48]** in the South Moravian region.

**[00:59:50]** Well, that's good.

**[00:59:52]** But it's impressive,

**[00:59:54]** and only an expert can appreciate

**[00:59:56]** what a great achievement it is.

**[00:59:58]** And for many people, it's completely like stolen.

**[01:00:00]** to allow variability there. So I consider this arrival of mine at the North Pole one of the greatest gifts of my life,

**[01:00:07]** that I received. And it's good not to tie it to aspirations, to expectations of what I deserve,

**[01:00:14]** what I should have. That quoted girly phrase. But I thought, yeah, no, I live this, this is happening to me,

**[01:00:21]** and now it's up to me how I deal with it. Not that I thought it would be completely different,

**[01:00:26]** that I'd arrive there, the sun would be shining, I'd be alone, and I'd realize how great it is,

**[01:00:30]** that I reached the North Pole and there are those idiots from Italy who ruined the whole thing.

**[01:00:35]** No, I just live it like this, it happened like this, fine, and now it's up to me what I take from it,

**[01:00:39]** what I choose and how I handle it. This is a photo, yeah, a beautifully content photo,

**[01:00:44]** wonderful. I'm sitting again with the Vaurany tribe, Amazon, and having a nice talk with a local native woman.

**[01:00:50]** Well, until I realize the context. This is a woman whose tribe members killed her son.

**[01:00:55]** And we talk about how she remembers that boy and whether she wishes for revenge

**[01:01:01]** and if she would want to kill members of her own tribe. That's really hard, right?

**[01:01:05]** Suddenly the photo looks completely different. Suddenly you see different features in the woman's face,

**[01:01:11]** suddenly you perceive the smile completely differently, suddenly you look into my eyes,

**[01:01:15]** when I turn around and you see a different message than before.

**[01:01:18]** The context, what we really live, is something completely different than the picture

**[01:01:23]** that it offers from the outside. When I realize this, when I ignore the outside images,

**[01:01:28]** but focus on the context and what is happening inside, I can handle it much better.

**[01:01:32]** Why do I live? Why am I here? What do I want? Do I want revenge for something?

**[01:01:36]** Do I want to live life? Do I want to ignore everything and live my own way?

**[01:01:42]** Do I want power? Do I want influence over other people? Is that what I want?

**[01:01:46]** Or do I want to defend myself? Many people do.

**[01:01:50]** They want to defend their right to live in front of others.

**[01:01:53]** They want to be useful, valuable, help others, prove themselves,

**[01:01:57]** be praised for something, be appreciated, and by that say,

**[01:02:01]** okay, so maybe it's good that I'm in this world.

**[01:02:04]** There are actually methodological approaches, like when you work with an employee

**[01:02:08]** or someone you hire for something,

**[01:02:11]** there are people who need money.

**[01:02:14]** You can insult, humiliate, and degrade them the whole time, but if you pay them,

**[01:02:17]** they will be satisfied. There are people who need praise.

**[01:02:20]** If you give them 100 crowns at the end, but the whole time you say,

**[01:02:23]** thank goodness you're here, it's great that we have such a person,

**[01:02:26]** That's excellent, that's the energy and work you do.

**[01:02:29]** Without you, we'd be lost; that person will be so happy,

**[01:02:32]** that they won't even need to be paid anymore.

**[01:02:35]** I'm not saying you should do it like that and exploit people,

**[01:02:38]** but it's good to recognize it in yourself, to think about what you want.

**[01:02:41]** Isn't it possible that my whole life, since I was a kid,

**[01:02:44]** like a little boy, I was constantly nagged and scolded at home,

**[01:02:47]** told I was useless and stupid, and what if for the rest of my life

**[01:02:50]** I just try to be useful and hope someone sees that in me?

**[01:02:59]** I don't feel like a nagged child, but many of us have something stuck inside,

**[01:03:03]** and a lifelong need to defend our right to live.

**[01:03:08]** Others decided that I was born.

**[01:03:11]** I didn't decide that, so I don't have to defend it.

**[01:03:14]** That's easy to say, hard to live by. I don't think that solves it.

**[01:03:17]** I just want to bring attention to this topic.

**[01:03:20]** What is my goal? To connect people? To create paths?

**[01:03:23]** That's also a question I often get.

**[01:03:26]** People say to me, Mr. Horký, please, what exactly are you?

**[01:03:29]** Like, what am I?

**[01:03:32]** Well, you travel, make films, do something.

**[01:03:35]** I actually thought about it and wrote down what I am.

**[01:03:38]** So I traveled, reached the poles, came to Greenland,

**[01:03:41]** swam with sharks, blah blah, made some films.

**[01:03:44]** The Century of Miroslav Zichmund was nominated for the Czech Lion.

**[01:03:47]** I met famous people, filmed with Messner, Heyerdahl, Clark, and others.

**[01:03:52]** Okay, so this is me.

**[01:03:55]** This is my most common face, how people see me,

**[01:03:58]** what they think of me from the outside.

**[01:04:01]** Now I've studied some schools, fields that interest me.

**[01:04:04]** Now I work helping companies with crisis communication,

**[01:04:07]** teaching people to communicate, consulting some people on their operations.

**[01:04:10]** This is a face many people don't see at all.

**[01:04:13]** This is actually the face you see now.

**[01:04:16]** It's completely non-travel-related, different, distinct.

**[01:04:19]** I'm also a YouTuber.

**[01:04:22]** I'm probably the oldest YouTuber in the Czech Republic.

**[01:04:25]** Come to YouTube, gather courage, try YouTube, come to me.

**[01:04:28]** Some people have been annoyed my whole life that I do so many different things.

**[01:04:31]** They say, pick one thing and do it well.

**[01:04:34]** I try to do all of it well, I strive to do everything properly.

**[01:04:37]** I love it all.

**[01:04:40]** I would be unhappy if I didn't do any of it.

**[01:04:43]** So Yuval Noah Harari made me incredibly happy just now.

**[01:04:46]** He had 21 Lessons for the 21st Century and Homo Deus.

**[01:04:49]** He said the most important skill for the 21st century is interdisciplinarity.

**[01:04:55]** And the ability to switch between different fields and work on yourself.

**[01:04:58]** So I breathed a sigh of relief, finally someone freed me.

**[01:05:02]** Because I realized, I really tried to reduce things in my life.

**[01:05:05]** Like, I'll stop traveling.

**[01:05:08]** I once had a girlfriend who hated my traveling.

**[01:05:11]** I was unhappy and also grumpy, unbearable.

**[01:05:15]** I just need it all together.

**[01:05:17]** And I found out my greatest desire is to connect people

**[01:05:20]** and understand what people are saying to each other.

**[01:05:23]** And it fills me with complete happiness when I can communicate through image and sound.

**[01:05:27]** So now I really enjoy it,

**[01:05:29]** because I picked images from all over the world that symbolize something to me.

**[01:05:33]** And I look at the audience sitting here, seeing what each photo does to them.

**[01:05:37]** And I imagine what it might do to you who might be watching this in libraries.

**[01:05:41]** And I enjoy thinking, maybe you see those meanings too.

**[01:05:44]** When I then make a film, wow, I think about what’s happening inside the viewer.

**[01:05:48]** And suddenly all my activities, all the things I do, connect.

**[01:05:52]** And it’s me, one person. Whole.

**[01:05:55]** It just shows itself in different ways.

**[01:05:57]** Plus I wonder, am I good at this, or just average?

**[01:06:02]** Like I said, anyone can be anything, but at an average level.

**[01:06:05]** We can be really good somewhere else.

**[01:06:07]** Whenever I thought, now I’ve got it, now it’s good,

**[01:06:10]** I’d see a film and think, damn, I don’t understand how they made this.

**[01:06:14]** At all. I’m not such a good filmmaker to even understand how a film like this is made.

**[01:06:20]** I have to learn again, work again, find out, discover.

**[01:06:25]** A meeting with the ego.

**[01:06:27]** I could also say, that’s nonsense, I do it differently.

**[01:06:30]** Like being stuck in the idea that I graduated from university ages ago,

**[01:06:34]** so I’m an expert, an engineer, I have certification, qualification, leave me be,

**[01:06:38]** I’ll do it this way.

**[01:06:40]** Or not. Or I say, no, fine, I’ll keep learning, I enjoy it,

**[01:06:43]** I enjoy it, I want to get better at it.

**[01:06:45]** Limits. Suddenly those limits are back again.

**[01:06:48]** And it’s about saying, okay, I’ll change something, learn something,

**[01:06:54]** I do something. That's what intergenerational conflicts are about.

**[01:06:57]** That's exactly how my generation, I'm Generation X,

**[01:07:01]** but I actually identify with the boomers, complains about the current Generation Z,

**[01:07:04]** who are similarly absolutely amazing and great, but simply have different values.

**[01:07:08]** And when we, the older ones, meet our ego and swallow it a bit,

**[01:07:12]** we suddenly realize how much we can be inspired by the young.

**[01:07:16]** Yeah, that's a blasphemous sentence for my generation,

**[01:07:20]** which thinks it knows how things should be. Well, the world is different,

**[01:07:23]** and I should change, I should learn something,

**[01:07:25]** I should improve.

**[01:07:27]** I was wonderfully taught this by Jane Goodall.

**[01:07:30]** This is from our interview shoot for my YouTube channel

**[01:07:35]** last year at the Náprstek Museum.

**[01:07:37]** She is 90 years old, please.

**[01:07:39]** She easily got out of the car, climbed the stairs to Vojta Náprstek's library,

**[01:07:43]** where we were filming.

**[01:07:46]** And this lady told me about how chimpanzees work,

**[01:07:50]** when they communicate with each other.

**[01:07:51]** She stood up normally, said, do it too,

**[01:07:53]** and started making chimpanzee sounds.

**[01:07:56]** And she explained to me that chimpanzees learn their whole lives.

**[01:08:00]** Young chimpanzees learn by playing, running,

**[01:08:03]** falling from branches and learning to hold on properly.

**[01:08:06]** And adult chimpanzees also keep learning their whole lives until death.

**[01:08:10]** Damn, if chimpanzees can do it, we could too, right?

**[01:08:14]** It's a very strange parameter,

**[01:08:16]** that we feel people at some point already know it

**[01:08:19]** and now they do it and we learn from them,

**[01:08:21]** because they do it well, because they have done it for a long time.

**[01:08:23]** That doesn't have to be true.

**[01:08:24]** Someone can do it for a long time and badly.

**[01:08:28]** If chimpanzees can do it, why can't I?

**[01:08:31]** This is one of the beautiful moments.

**[01:08:33]** I don't have my hand on her head because I would be rude,

**[01:08:36]** destroying her presence at an advanced age,

**[01:08:39]** but because when she showed me how chimpanzees behave,

**[01:08:42]** she said, when the male trusts the female,

**[01:08:44]** he puts his hand on her head.

**[01:08:45]** And she took my hand, placed it on her head like this,

**[01:08:47]** and said, and when they both trust each other, they hug.

**[01:08:49]** And he hugged me.

**[01:08:51]** 90 years old. A world celebrity.

**[01:08:53]** A huge personality.

**[01:08:55]** UN ambassador for animal rights.

**[01:08:57]** Just before leaving office, Biden awarded her a huge honor.

**[01:09:03]** A wonderful lady with incredible stories.

**[01:09:06]** Of course, these aren't chimpanzees.

**[01:09:08]** I have that photo there just as a reminder,

**[01:09:10]** because it would be a super huge topic,

**[01:09:12]** one we could easily get lost in.

**[01:09:14]** But I want to at least mention it, we've already touched on it.

**[01:09:17]** And that is relationships. We need relationships.

**[01:09:20]** Bad relationships, bad life.

**[01:09:23]** People fighting, a life full of conflict.

**[01:09:25]** Simply put, without that, we can never achieve anything truly great.

**[01:09:29]** And achieving great things out of spite won't bring joy or satisfaction either.

**[01:09:34]** So, we're nearing the end.

**[01:09:36]** My beloved Antarctica.

**[01:09:38]** That's an environment I really love.

**[01:09:40]** And there you hit limits you can't overcome.

**[01:09:43]** Like those sweet little speeches,

**[01:09:45]** no, the limit is in your head.

**[01:09:47]** Push yourself and you can overcome anything.

**[01:09:49]** Do you have it in you? You don't.

**[01:09:51]** Believe me, you don't.

**[01:09:52]** We don't. I don't either.

**[01:09:54]** There are things I can plan at my computer, at home, in warmth, with coffee,

**[01:09:58]** and I can do them.

**[01:10:00]** But when I haven't eaten for three days, I feel sick, and I have 30 kilometers uphill ahead,

**[01:10:05]** I can't do it. I just can't. It's that simple.

**[01:10:08]** If you put me on a treadmill and say, run 100 kilometers, I can't do it.

**[01:10:12]** It's really simple, there are so many limits.

**[01:10:16]** Some are physical, which is clearly visible, and others are mental, which we don't see.

**[01:10:21]** When we hit those, I imagine them clashing,

**[01:10:25]** it gets stuck, but it can't be overcome, it always frustrates me, it always offends me,

**[01:10:29]** I don't know why, but it just offends me. Somewhere there are these things,

**[01:10:33]** where we can improve, and it's the same with physical limits.

**[01:10:37]** I think it's extremely healthy to accept that I can't do everything.

**[01:10:41]** However, my decision alone doesn't decide, my mind alone doesn't decide.

**[01:10:45]** There are simply limits I can't overcome by decision. That's what obstacles are for.

**[01:10:50]** Thank God for the obstacles that come my way. Please, God, give me obstacles,

**[01:10:54]** that I have a chance to overcome. A paraphrase of the prayer of Francis of Assisi,

**[01:10:58]** a beautiful text, excellent, you probably know it at least in some short fragments,

**[01:11:02]** you must have come across it. There are some well-known sayings,

**[01:11:06]** that are perfect for obstacles. Obstacles are here to stop others. Fine, that's good, I like that, I use it.

**[01:11:10]** Obstacles are here for us to learn something. Hmm, that's a bit more boring,

**[01:11:14]** it grates a bit, but it's true. Or obstacles are here so that

**[01:11:18]** we step back and get a bigger run-up. I like that too.

**[01:11:22]** That makes sense as well. I hit limits when I lack strength,

**[01:11:26]** skills, knowledge, resilience, but also when I don't know the purpose.

**[01:11:30]** When I don't know what it's all for. Well, I clearly know who I am,

**[01:11:34]** I know what I want, I know how my experience should look,

**[01:11:38]** I know what I want, I know how my path should look. I've already fought my way through

**[01:11:42]** all that I'm talking about here. And now I'll tell you,

**[01:11:46]** that it's all nonsense if a person doesn't see the meaning. Yeah, that's how it is.

**[01:11:50]** For example, this guy has to see the meaning in why he sticks his fingers into that terrible

**[01:11:54]** electrical switchboard. He also knows why he kept the helmet,

**[01:11:58]** that he had on his head when he arrived on the motorcycle.

**[01:12:02]** This is from Nepal in Ifocen. If you've been to India,

**[01:12:06]** or Sri Lanka, the same. They're amazing electricians.

**[01:12:10]** But that guy has the meaning there. That's amazing. We're all like

**[01:12:14]** electricians. And it's really good when I know why I'm there.

**[01:12:18]** We're back in the mountains, back on that hill I showed you

**[01:12:22]** at the beginning. What's it all for? What's the meaning?

**[01:12:26]** What is it good for? I recommend Frankl.

**[01:12:30]** You probably know his book Man's Search for Meaning.

**[01:12:34]** A guy who was in a concentration camp, they killed his whole family there,

**[01:12:38]** he survived. The whole time in the camp he studied,

**[01:12:42]** who survives. Why some die, why some survive.

**[01:12:46]** He created an amazing branch of psychology,

**[01:12:50]** which deals with questions of meaning. And he found out,

**[01:12:54]** that even in the concentration camp, people survive who see meaning in surviving.

**[01:12:58]** Who know what their task is. Know what they need to do,

**[01:13:02]** until they get out of the camp. What saved him too,

**[01:13:06]** was seeing meaning in studying what helps a person get through

**[01:13:10]** the hell of the concentration camp. It's meaning. Seeing meaning in what I do.

**[01:13:14]** Those 70% of English people who, as I mentioned at the start

**[01:13:18]** in that study, said they don't see meaning in their job,

**[01:13:22]** they should all leave that job. Even if for a year they had to eat only rice,

**[01:13:30]** because they won't be able to get anything else, but if they do something that gives them meaning,

**[01:13:34]** then even the rice will be bearable and life will be easier,

**[01:13:38]** better functioning. So it doesn't look like I'm just some crazy person

**[01:13:42]** with lofty texts. Jim Collins, author of famous

**[01:13:46]** management books, management literature,

**[01:13:50]** wrote a book called something like Great Companies,

**[01:13:54]** or How to Build a Great Company. You can easily find it by his name.

**[01:13:58]** One of the parameters of the historically most successful companies

**[01:14:02]** in human history is the company's internal ideology.

**[01:14:06]** It knows that the company has values, rules, and goals,

**[01:14:10]** which tell every employee why they are at that job.

**[01:14:14]** And they can disagree with those values. They can say, no, sorry,

**[01:14:18]** this isn't for me. And they leave. Philip Morris, the cigarette manufacturer,

**[01:14:22]** has a messed-up ideology. And those who are there,

**[01:14:26]** you can compare why they make cigarettes and why they agree with the values

**[01:14:30]** the company holds. But there is a value system that explains,

**[01:14:34]** why they do it. This is something that is normally monetizable,

**[01:14:38]** measurable, and leads to business success.

**[01:14:42]** It's not just some value talk by Petr Horký.

**[01:14:46]** With Ana Hogenová, in the mentioned Socrato course, we talk about these things,

**[01:14:50]** how to get through to them, how to reach them, how to dig them out within yourself,

**[01:14:54]** how to figure it out. Because it's not easy to find out.

**[01:14:58]** Does it make sense to save starving children in Sudan?

**[01:15:02]** Do I want to live in Sudan? No. So am I bad for not wanting to save starving children?

**[01:15:06]** Probably not. My purpose is probably elsewhere. I'll find it elsewhere. I'm searching.

**[01:15:10]** These are not questions we answer today or figure out today.

**[01:15:14]** Did it make sense? That's the story with the flag.

**[01:15:18]** If it wasn't there, it makes sense. And if the flag is there, it makes sense.

**[01:15:24]** It makes sense what I experienced when I was walking there.

**[01:15:28]** It makes sense where it moved me in my head, my heart, my soul.

**[01:15:32]** That makes sense. That has the value that takes me somewhere.

**[01:15:36]** It's good that I knew why I was there back then.

**[01:15:40]** The whole time, the whole journey, walking for, I don't know, 12-14 days,

**[01:15:44]** you are on the frozen surface of the Arctic Ocean.

**[01:15:48]** It is constantly moving. It can break at any moment and you fall through

**[01:15:52]** and won't make it. And ice can pile up on itself at any time.

**[01:15:56]** When you sleep, whenever you lie down and fall asleep, you hear the ice cracking beneath you.

**[01:16:00]** If you don't know why you're glad to be there, you won't last.

**[01:16:04]** It's as simple as a slap. We reached

**[01:16:08]** Ecuadorian mountaineer Pepe Chichon, who wanted to go solo.

**[01:16:12]** The boy was crying. He was crying because he really didn't want to be there.

**[01:16:16]** He was cold, the conditions were harsh, he was afraid for his life.

**[01:16:20]** Afraid for your life? At any moment the ice could break.

**[01:16:24]** You walk around open sea, on ice that ripples with you,

**[01:16:28]** along with the surface, because it's so thin. There are situations where you are directly

**[01:16:32]** exposed to your own death. If you don't know why you want to be there,

**[01:16:36]** then you don't want to be there. But we live through all of that. When I talk about it,

**[01:16:40]** that it's at the pole, people say, damn, I wouldn't go there.

**[01:16:44]** Everyday life has a huge amount of things,

**[01:16:48]** that no one wants to live through. Compared to that, walking

**[01:16:52]** on rippling ice is just a walk in a rose garden.

**[01:16:56]** It's very important to recognize that. It takes enormous courage

**[01:17:00]** to admit to yourself, this is really true, I don't want it like this.

**[01:17:04]** Then it takes huge courage to say, I will change it and actually change it.

**[01:17:08]** But thanks to that, when you are dying, you won't be quoting those five phrases,

**[01:17:12]** that Broniver recorded as the most common regrets people have

**[01:17:16]** when on their deathbed. It's an equation you can't escape.

**[01:17:20]** Because on the other hand, when I know why I do what I do,

**[01:17:24]** I am happy there. It all makes sense, it all has logic.

**[01:17:28]** And my life at that moment is beautiful and I live it to the fullest.

**[01:17:32]** That's me in this photo. I'm in conditions where a lot of people

**[01:17:36]** would immediately say, damn, I would never want to be there.

**[01:17:40]** And if so, only by helicopter, like those Italians, and right back.

**[01:17:44]** But when I know why, I am happy there and you don't have to

**[01:17:48]** want to be there with me. Each of you has your own North Pole,

**[01:17:52]** where you will be happy. It doesn't matter if it's incomprehensible

**[01:17:56]** to other people. Damn it, that's their problem, they have their own North Pole.

**[01:18:00]** Go there, reach it, change your joy that you are in that nasty cold,

**[01:18:06]** experience it, it's your North Pole, it has the right to its oddities,

**[01:18:10]** peculiarities, its simply strange things.

**[01:18:14]** This is me from about 5400 meters on the summit of Gokyo Ri,

**[01:18:18]** Everest peeks over my shoulder. I was exhausted like a dog,

**[01:18:22]** had a headache, it was a beautiful view, the sun was setting, I knew

**[01:18:30]** we knew it wasn't a place where something could happen to you. It's simply

**[01:18:34]** beautiful to be there, it's a joy to be there, a joy to film there,

**[01:18:38]** for me, not necessarily for someone else. That's it, I know why I'm here,

**[01:18:42]** I know where I'm going and what it's for, and I want to be here.

**[01:18:46]** And then it's no problem to decide to train for it,

**[01:18:50]** to get ready and maybe I won't succeed. On this trip I am

**[01:18:54]** I didn't climb one hill, I turned back just before the top, I went down,

**[01:18:58]** because it didn't feel right, I was poorly prepared. That's part of it,

**[01:19:02]** that limits shift, things move, and it starts to work.

**[01:19:06]** That's all from me.

**[01:19:08]** Applause

**[01:19:22]** Thank you so much for the wonderful talk, and I think,

**[01:19:26]** it's such a great way to start the year,

**[01:19:30]** when people make their resolutions and it's kind of motivational.

**[01:19:34]** I hope you did the exercises,

**[01:19:38]** whether it was the first or the second one.

**[01:19:42]** Maybe... Petr, there was a question,

**[01:19:46]** how do you actually feel, whether you like being there alone

**[01:19:50]** or if you're there because of the people

**[01:19:54]** who are with you. How do you feel about this?

**[01:19:58]** I really like the sabotage on the Polar.

**[01:20:00]** On the Polar. I enjoy it immensely,

**[01:20:03]** because that's the moment when I stop and all the unexperienced emotions

**[01:20:06]** come out of me, which I often don't have time for in Europe,

**[01:20:10]** and I don't have the space to laugh out loud,

**[01:20:15]** cry properly, or reflect on problems.

**[01:20:20]** So I really like the sabotage there, and I'm a good companion to myself,

**[01:20:23]** especially with the presence of Pri Chandi, so it's great.

**[01:20:26]** I'm really looking forward to going into the dark, I want to try and experience that too,

**[01:20:30]** and I think it will be nice. So the living water of my life

**[01:20:34]** is meeting people, communication, connecting people,

**[01:20:38]** but the essence of my life is within me, and I need to meet it sometimes,

**[01:20:42]** to be alone and just with myself.

**[01:20:46]** Do you have any cognitive dissonance?

**[01:20:49]** Definitely.

**[01:20:50]** There was something in the questions, so I'll ask it right away,

**[01:20:53]** because we wanted to touch a bit on the planet's limits,

**[01:20:57]** and you and Mirek, who was also a guest here, Bártov, actually recorded The End of Civilizations,

**[01:21:01]** and it's some kind of testimony.

**[01:21:03]** Here you have cognitive dissonance: when you travel the world and cause

**[01:21:08]** greenhouse gas emissions, just try it.

**[01:21:11]** Yeah, this is definitely a topic that works and people sometimes tell me,

**[01:21:15]** that I travel and burden the planet and cause it harm.

**[01:21:18]** I dealt with it myself, I always try to pay for various

**[01:21:23]** ecological cases, which at least the airlines promise,

**[01:21:27]** that they will plant some trees. Nowadays there are certain,

**[01:21:31]** I don't want to say schools, but some thought processes,

**[01:21:36]** on how to make travel ecologically sustainable.

**[01:21:39]** And there are values like not traveling for just two days,

**[01:21:43]** not just doing quick hop-on, hop-off flights, so I try to reduce that,

**[01:21:48]** unless it's really some super exceptional event,

**[01:21:51]** the value of what I film or capture there, in my opinion, is greater,

**[01:21:55]** than the ecological burden of the flight. But I try to make sure these are always

**[01:21:58]** longer stays. It's not absolutely necessary for me to always travel by plane,

**[01:22:01]** that's another thing. With my family, we traveled Europe, the Lofoten Islands,

**[01:22:04]** in a camper van, so I try to reduce this somehow.

**[01:22:07]** And the second thing is that I accept that behind me, behind my whole life,

**[01:22:12]** there remains some ecological footprint. And I believe that the value

**[01:22:16]** I bring by traveling somewhere is greater than the value

**[01:22:19]** I would bring by not bringing anything and just sitting at home on my butt,

**[01:22:23]** but the world would be somewhat 'cleaner'.

**[01:22:26]** Well, actually, we have that shot now

**[01:22:32]** of your website and I'm actually a big fan of yours.

**[01:22:36]** Really? The first?

**[01:22:37]** Yes, for a long time, because the stories and the interviews

**[01:22:41]** you do really push me forward a lot.

**[01:22:45]** One of the strongest was recently with the poor childhood,

**[01:22:49]** which you had with those mountaineers.

**[01:22:51]** With Báho Holeček and Honza Tráva.

**[01:22:53]** Yes, I had to catch my breath after that one.

**[01:22:56]** And there are many interviews. And I always wanted to ask you,

**[01:23:00]** Honza, now here, because I do Brain&Breakfast, I've been doing it for some time.

**[01:23:03]** And you recently started dealing with interviews.

**[01:23:05]** How is this done?

**[01:23:11]** How do you look at it, or do you have some boundary in,

**[01:23:15]** who you still want to invite, who you would rather not invite,

**[01:23:19]** who to include in the dialogue, who not to include?

**[01:23:22]** For me, this is something I struggle with a lot, especially regarding this format.

**[01:23:25]** How do you handle it?

**[01:23:30]** Yes, I think I know what you're asking.

**[01:23:31]** Some people ask me, how could you do an interview with Dan Landa?

**[01:23:34]** That's a shock. And I say, no, I know him.

**[01:23:37]** And I'm convinced that he is a personality

**[01:23:40]** who somehow holds things together.

**[01:23:43]** That he is really a remarkable guy, a man who wants to help this world.

**[01:23:49]** I decide, not to sound pathetic, with my heart.

**[01:23:53]** But I decide based on that.

**[01:23:55]** The first thing is whether I simply want to meet that person

**[01:23:59]** and look forward to talking with them.

**[01:24:01]** That's my first parameter: feeling that the person

**[01:24:04]** really interests me. That I feel human warmth,

**[01:24:07]** not calculation, not...

**[01:24:09]** I wouldn't want to talk with Okamura, for example.

**[01:24:11]** It wouldn't interest or entertain me. Maybe that's a mistake.

**[01:24:13]** Some people told me he's a very interesting guy

**[01:24:16]** and that he does politics just like business.

**[01:24:18]** I don't know, I really don't, but it doesn't click for me.

**[01:24:20]** It's not that I say, because he does that kind of politics,

**[01:24:23]** I don't want him. No, it's not about that, not about differing opinions.

**[01:24:27]** I just don't feel motivated to meet him.

**[01:24:29]** So this feeling really plays a big role.

**[01:24:32]** And then I deliberately don't want people who I think really lie

**[01:24:37]** and say things that are completely untrue.

**[01:24:41]** And try to manipulate or exploit people around them.

**[01:24:45]** I don't want to give such people any attention or space.

**[01:24:50]** If they start opposing me, I will respond,

**[01:24:53]** I will engage in dialogue. It's not that I pretend they don't exist,

**[01:24:55]** but I don't want to increase their reach.

**[01:24:58]** So this is some kind of choice I make.

**[01:25:00]** I did an interview about extraocular vision.

**[01:25:03]** It's a highly debated topic where small children,

**[01:25:06]** but also adults, simply fix their eyes and can read a book.

**[01:25:10]** There are tons of texts about it being an Ezo-business scam,

**[01:25:14]** about exploiting people. I've experienced it myself.

**[01:25:18]** The key is, I don't claim it's some miraculous discovered energy

**[01:25:23]** or great power. No. It's clearly some skill we have.

**[01:25:27]** Somehow we can see by reflection, just read something.

**[01:25:30]** It's interesting and I'd like to know how it works.

**[01:25:33]** So I include it because I experienced it personally and I don't lie there.

**[01:25:36]** For me, the key is not to lie. Neither the guest nor I.

**[01:25:40]** So this is probably the parameter. I really have no ideological

**[01:25:44]** parameter like deciding definitely not to invite someone

**[01:25:47]** because of differing opinions.

**[01:25:51]** If I had different opinions but believed it was their true opinion,

**[01:25:54]** I'd gladly talk with them about it.

**[01:25:57]** Thank you. Among other things, you are one of the few here in Éter,

**[01:26:02]** who has that global reach. That means you really offer guests,

**[01:26:05]** who are interesting, rituals and so on, you did it with a person,

**[01:26:09]** who I feel is a megastar.

**[01:26:12]** So I definitely recommend this here.

**[01:26:16]** And thanks for what you do.

**[01:26:20]** What was the mistake that caused you to get frostbite on half of your seven pouches?

**[01:26:23]** Well, I talk about it in my lecture about polar journeys,

**[01:26:27]** where when you go to the North Pole, there is 100% humidity,

**[01:26:32]** and therefore nothing evaporates, nothing dries out there.

**[01:26:35]** Many people are surprised that in Greenland or Siberia you can dry a wet T-shirt.

**[01:26:38]** You put it on, it first freezes and then it really dries.

**[01:26:41]** Which is not possible on the way to the North Pole, so when I sweat,

**[01:26:44]** I stay wet until I get home.

**[01:26:47]** And when you exhale, there is moisture in the breath, including through the nose,

**[01:26:51]** and it starts to condense and freeze.

**[01:26:53]** And you have to occasionally wipe your mouth in that moist environment,

**[01:26:56]** especially when you have a beard that tends to hold it.

**[01:26:59]** I didn’t do that that day, I was marching, I even liked it,

**[01:27:02]** that I was freezing, I liked it, but then I really got those two

**[01:27:05]** breath icicles that completely burned me, so I really

**[01:27:08]** could only eat and drink in the evening. It was kind of one-sided,

**[01:27:11]** you don’t feel your mouth because it’s so cold.

**[01:27:14]** Like when you talk about the dentist. And I was insanely hungry

**[01:27:17]** and the food was already mixing there, it smelled of course,

**[01:27:21]** and I said, if you don’t want anything, that’s okay, I’ll eat it for now,

**[01:27:25]** and then you’ll have the mess tin, wow, that smells, it’s really great.

**[01:27:28]** And you don’t want to taste it, and you have to pull it carefully

**[01:27:32]** without tearing it with the piece of throat, so it lasts. So it’s a somewhat comical story.

**[01:27:36]** And the mistake was that I didn’t wipe my mouth.

**[01:27:39]** Are you a vegetarian?

**[01:27:41]** No, I’m not. I like vegetarian dishes.

**[01:27:45]** I have nothing against vegetarianism at all. On the contrary, many such foods

**[01:27:48]** taste really good to me. I don’t like soy meat and those substitutes,

**[01:27:52]** but I eat meat and accept that animals die because of me.

**[01:27:58]** There is also a question here from Petr.

**[01:28:02]** What is the mentioned Jobs limit you talked about?

**[01:28:06]** I don’t mean a limit, I mean the clickiness of the path,

**[01:28:10]** when Jobs talked about how he actually moved forward,

**[01:28:15]** so he never knew for sure that he would succeed

**[01:28:19]** just create a global product that somehow

**[01:28:22]** would impact the world. And when he had that desire, every decision was here and now.

**[01:28:26]** Of course with some vision, but you were never sure exactly where it would lead him

**[01:28:30]** and where it would take him. I wonder if I mentioned any limit there,

**[01:28:34]** directly through John Matoné, who was his personal coach.

**[01:28:38]** We talked about Steve Jobs as well. Definitely,

**[01:28:42]** Steve Jobs said he would have spent much more time on relationships in his life,

**[01:28:46]** especially relationships and family. That’s a value no money can buy,

**[01:28:50]** and that in many situations he failed at that.

**[01:28:55]** And what was the biggest limit or experience you had in Antarctica?

**[01:29:02]** In Antarctica? I have a beautiful story there.

**[01:29:06]** How much time do I have? I think it will take about five, four minutes,

**[01:29:10]** but I’ll try to condense it.

**[01:29:13]** When we went to Mount Vinson, the highest mountain in Antarctica,

**[01:29:17]** 4982 meters, just under five thousand, we climbed to the high camp,

**[01:29:23]** from where you go to the summit, a storm came, and we had to descend all the way back to base camp,

**[01:29:26]** and then we went again for the second attempt.

**[01:29:29]** And at the high camp the second time, I was tired.

**[01:29:32]** And on the summit day, I was slow.

**[01:29:37]** I was going slowly, and I was with George Pešek,

**[01:29:41]** a Czech, an amazing, great guy who lives in the United States,

**[01:29:44]** a Czech-American, former NHL hockey player, so incredible physical endurance.

**[01:29:48]** And a great guy. I saw I was slowing him down.

**[01:29:52]** And in these conditions, when you slow the other person down,

**[01:29:56]** you know you cause them much more discomfort,

**[01:29:58]** because he’s dressed to go at his own pace to the summit,

**[01:30:00]** and he warms up by expending energy, and when he goes slow, he gets cold.

**[01:30:05]** You know you’re making it hard for him, so when we were about 200 vertical meters from the summit,

**[01:30:10]** and I needed a moment to rest, I said, "George, I’m ruining this for you.

**[01:30:14]** I see it, I know it, and I’m making this journey a struggle for you, so if you want,

**[01:30:19]** I’ll wait here and I won’t go up. You go up at your pace, and I won’t go.

**[01:30:24]** I can’t live with the fact that I’m ruining the end of this journey for you so badly."

**[01:30:29]** And I was okay with that, that I simply don’t have the right to trade my desire to reach the summit

**[01:30:34]** for his suffering. And he looked at me and said,

**[01:30:38]** "Peter, what are you talking about? We went up together, we went down together,

**[01:30:42]** when we had to turn back, now we’re going up together again, and you want to go to the top?"

**[01:30:46]** I said, "Of course I want to, absolutely. So let’s go together."

**[01:30:49]** No talk, there’s nothing to discuss. And don’t worry about me, I’m happy,

**[01:30:53]** at least I get to see the landscape, I’m going with you, however you want."

**[01:30:56]** So we climbed together, and this was a manly, friendly,

**[01:31:01]** Human support gave me the meaning, the strength, the energy to get there.

**[01:31:05]** So from the summit down, I had energy and strength to spare.

**[01:31:09]** And the whole high camp, summit, back journey is supposed to take,

**[01:31:15]** I think, 16 hours. We did it in 12. We were four hours

**[01:31:19]** faster than the normally expected time for this route,

**[01:31:23]** but my experience is that at one point, when I was slow,

**[01:31:26]** if my friend hadn’t supported me, I wouldn’t have made it up at all.

**[01:31:29]** And this is a huge life experience for me, equally important,

**[01:31:35]** at least as important as the fact that I reached the top

**[01:31:38]** and then made it to the South Pole.

**[01:31:40]** So thank you not only for this story but for the whole series.

**[01:31:44]** I feel like you kind of sense what’s coming next.

**[01:31:47]** It’s a great teaser for our upcoming discussion,

**[01:31:51]** which we will have. So we thank you for your attention.

**[01:31:57]** Thank you for getting up early, for making time,

**[01:32:00]** for dedicating your morning to this.

**[01:32:03]** As always, we recommend that it doesn’t end with just this lecture.

**[01:32:07]** Please try to have a round of discussion at your company or even in the library

**[01:32:11]** and talk about what excited you, what you disagree with.

**[01:32:14]** Just talk together, I think it will help.

**[01:32:17]** If you want guiding questions, we will provide them.

**[01:32:21]** Of course, we welcome any feedback.

**[01:32:24]** So now it’s on the slide.

**[01:32:27]** Please let us know if you liked it.

**[01:32:30]** Or write a word that came to mind,

**[01:32:33]** something Petr talked about today, we’d appreciate that.

**[01:32:36]** So the round and reflection, as I said,

**[01:32:41]** Petr and I and a few others who are suitable for this topic,

**[01:32:47]** or who I think are suitable,

**[01:32:50]** will invite them on 3.2. at 11 a.m.

**[01:32:53]** It’s an online meeting, so anyone interested,

**[01:32:56]** wants to dive deeper, hear more stories,

**[01:33:00]** this is Brain and Breakfast Digestive, so I’m really looking forward to it.

**[01:33:05]** And we can also move on to the next breakfast.

**[01:33:12]** Maybe I just want to point out that next Wednesday starts,

**[01:33:17]** we had the last Brain and Breakfast with Ján Košturek,

**[01:33:20]** my great teacher Slovek, who has experienced a lot,

**[01:33:23]** next Wednesday his school of life begins,

**[01:33:26]** so if you’re still thinking about the new year,

**[01:33:30]** this will be ten amazing meetings with Slovek,

**[01:33:33]** who I think has a lot to say to the world,

**[01:33:36]** so this is Ján Košturek and the school of life.

**[01:33:40]** As I already mentioned, Red Button has many projects,

**[01:33:45]** one of them is the book of the month, RB kniha.cz, definitely read it,

**[01:33:49]** it makes sense too, Hanka Jadavan does it great.

**[01:33:53]** And now I'm getting to the last thing,

**[01:33:57]** what awaits us today, an invitation to the February breakfast.

**[01:34:01]** We'll continue. Interesting topic, another interesting guest,

**[01:34:05]** Eva Nečasová is behind the AI Dětem initiative.

**[01:34:08]** She is someone who got into the topic, one part technology,

**[01:34:12]** one part education, and now she is setting our framework educational system

**[01:34:16]** right here, in this area. I think that about

**[01:34:19]** how the world is changing, we don't need to talk here,

**[01:34:22]** but if you are viewers of Brain&Breakfast, you kind of feel it.

**[01:34:26]** This is the topic we will touch on on the 22nd.

**[01:34:29]** I invite you to the next Brain&Breakfast with Eva Nečasová.

**[01:34:32]** Thank you, Petr, once again for making the trip

**[01:34:35]** and for your story. Thank you. Take care. Thanks.

**[01:34:38]** Bye and see you.

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